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    2024 - the end for SSDs???

    worsening latencies and error rates in store for SSDs to come in the long run... but hopefully we'll all be onto using something else by then anyway...

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/NAN...upp,14728.html

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    Re: 2024 - the end for SSDs???

    Well firstly if latencies do indeed double, that still leaves SSDs weeing over hard drives from a lofty height

    Over that sort of time-scale there is a good chance that one of the other technologies like mram will take over from flash and give us a step change in performance & cost, but it would still be an SSD of sorts. Actually, form most people probably just improved cost will do them.

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    Re: 2024 - the end for SSDs???

    Well at the moment they are taking off

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    Re: 2024 - the end for SSDs???

    There are currently 1TB SSD units on the market, which don't experience any density issues (though they are very-very-expensive). At the current stage we are at most suppliers, and users, realize that SSDs aren't a large-scale storage solution. This area still belongs to traditional HDDs.

    Also the article states "It's not going to be viable to go past 6.5-nm" and "feature capacities of ...16 TB"
    Well we are currently at 3TB max (the highest i've seen, which cost sever £'000), and 25-nm. So theres a long-long way before we reach capacity, and frankly 16TB is more than enough for any conventional use (though storage requirements will undoubtedly rise).

    But who's to say that this wont be different in 12 years time, any prediction that far ahead are bound to be rife with problems. Look back 12 years, where were we with storage back then? (Seriously where were we? I was only 10-years-old...). There's no way to tell what new technologies will come around, or for all we know there may be some break-through technology being worked on now...
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    Re: 2024 - the end for SSDs???

    Quote Originally Posted by Samwood View Post
    There's no way to tell what new technologies will come around, or for all we know there may be some break-through technology being worked on now...
    Exactly - it'll be like someone whinging that we've hit the capacity for PATA transfer rates when SATA is available. It will happen, but something better will be around and everyone will move over to that.

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    Re: 2024 - the end for SSDs???

    A lot has changed in the last 10 years of computing, I highly doubt any potential issues we see with todays SSDs will still be relevant 12 years from now.

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    Re: 2024 - the end for SSDs???

    Reminds me of the "HDD's wont be able to pass X amount".

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    Re: 2024 - the end for SSDs???

    What I find odd, is that while density may be a long term issue.....why keep making them all in thin 2.5" format? Lets have some the same size as 3.5" HDDs...you could easily cram 4 times as many chips in with the added bonus of increased bandwidth.
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    Re: 2024 - the end for SSDs???

    We'll be storing stuff on qubits by then.

    Problem will be how to do you make a quantum disk drive portable.
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    Re: 2024 - the end for SSDs???

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    What I find odd, is that while density may be a long term issue.....why keep making them all in thin 2.5" format? Lets have some the same size as 3.5" HDDs...you could easily cram 4 times as many chips in with the added bonus of increased bandwidth.

    you mean like this? http://www.scan.co.uk/products/32gb-...-50mb-s-retail


    TBH, I'd rather buy a 2.5" as it can be used in a laptop or desktop, Giving better flexibility.

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    Re: 2024 - the end for SSDs???

    surely permanent ram will take over sdd's

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    Re: 2024 - the end for SSDs???

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    What I find odd, is that while density may be a long term issue.....why keep making them all in thin 2.5" format? Lets have some the same size as 3.5" HDDs...you could easily cram 4 times as many chips in with the added bonus of increased bandwidth.
    I think because when drives get that many flash chips, you are so far beyond what SATA can cope with that you really might as well stuff it on a PCIe card rather than waste most of your performance.

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    Re: 2024 - the end for SSDs???

    Quote Originally Posted by pmcx9 View Post
    surely permanent ram will take over sdd's
    Only in embedded systems where the mindset has given battery backed ram for decades. Should make for much longer phone battery life for example.

    Problem with PCs is the mindset of "read off disk into ram" is very deeply engrained. Perhaps tablets will show us a way forward, but it will take a long time. In the mean time, we will get SSDs made out of permenant ram. They will be faster and more resilient than todays SSDs, people will be happy with that.

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