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    Sony's new 84" 4k TV, XBR-84X900

    Just had the chance to sit and watch a 4k demo (or demos I should say) on this TV. I was sat about 3 or 4 feet away, and was really impressed with the clarity of the screen and images displayed. It's priced at 1.6 million yen and it certainly feels like it. They have it next to a few other HD TVs and the different is astounding.

    What I was most impressed with was how you could read small sign boards or posters quite easily if you get up close and that when you have roofing tiles, you expect moire but there was none. I'm guessing this was an uncompressed or lossless stream and I wanted to find out what the player was...but the cables went behind a wall...

    One thing that I noticed was the picture was jittery a few times. I assume that "TruMotion", or whatever it's called, is supposed to cure that. It did a good job with a horse pulling a car, as the motion was really smooth. Just one or two pans had a slight jerky motion.

    The worst part is that you can see just how ugly some people are...warts, pores and all!

    Honestly, I like this new progression and is a real step up in image quality...but if what I can tell from the back of the TV, you'll need a paired set of HDMI cables to feed 4k.

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    Re: Sony's new 84" 4k TV, XBR-84X900

    £12,750! But thinking back to when large plasma TVs were introduced, and given that early adopters always pay a premium.

    The real test will be when content becomes available in 4K format.
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    Re: Sony's new 84" 4k TV, XBR-84X900

    I am still not convinced by 4k.

    On a 50" screen @ 1080p I have to get extremely close to the screen to see artefacts in high bitrate source material, so close that there is no way you would sit there.

    And we are going to need 150GB+ disks for a 4k movie....and 99% of people would not be able to see the difference....

    Great for cinemas, not good for home use.

    Maybe if we had 4k LCD panels (27/30") I could see a professional use....but for a TV screen?
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    Re: Sony's new 84" 4k TV, XBR-84X900

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    £12,750! But thinking back to when large plasma TVs were introduced, and given that early adopters always pay a premium.

    The real test will be when content becomes available in 4K format.
    From what I remember, there is 4k content available. I'm sure you could download the 4k version of Timescape, but then again it's not prevalent. Still, it's an emerging format, so it depends on how well it's received.
    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    I am still not convinced by 4k.

    On a 50" screen @ 1080p I have to get extremely close to the screen to see artefacts in high bitrate source material, so close that there is no way you would sit there.

    And we are going to need 150GB+ disks for a 4k movie....and 99% of people would not be able to see the difference....

    Great for cinemas, not good for home use.

    Maybe if we had 4k LCD panels (27/30") I could see a professional use....but for a TV screen?
    I remember watching TV on the Panasonic 100" plasma TV from 4 foot away and it was really very good in terms of lack of artifacts. That's not the key point for 4k. What you get is a huge amount of detail and clarity and even when sitting at a short distance away the content just "pops". The difference is even more stark when you really take a big step back, and I'm only talking about detail here. Not colour reproduction.

    I think you are being quite cynical with the 99% statistic. I remember people making the same assumptions when there was the whole Blu-Ray / HD-DVD war and whether if it provides a better experience than normal DVD content. I sat in the show room for a 4k projector and some crazy 9.1 (or can you say 2 as it had a 2 subwoofer) system and it was a pure home cinema experience. The 4k TV provides a good alternative for this at a fraction of the cost (but still ungodly expensive).

    I do encourage you Shaithis to try a demo room of 4k content and displays. It is a marked step up and perhaps you might be pleasantly surprised.

    ...and storage space...well that's always been an issue that has been solved with clever solutions from lossless compression to finding new ways to record information.

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