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    Went TV hunting this morning and got a surprise

    I can't find a TV better than my ancient 720p Crt for under £600

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    Re: Went TV hunting this morning and got a surprise

    Depends what 'better' means. I'm sure I can find one with lower power consumption...

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    Re: Went TV hunting this morning and got a surprise

    Something with more positives than negatives.

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    Re: Went TV hunting this morning and got a surprise

    No, you need to jump up to about £700, then you can get fantastic plasmas, eg http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-TX...words=p42st50b

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    Re: Went TV hunting this morning and got a surprise

    I think this was the stand out TV I seen.

    http://www.richersounds.com/product/...ana-txp42gt60b

    Similar looking to other Panasonic's but with a silver base. It was a very nice set but twice what I wanted to pay and three times what I paid for my current TV 8~ years ago.

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    Re: Went TV hunting this morning and got a surprise

    Do you actually need all of the features that TV offers? I imagine you can get one significantly cheaper with similar image quality if you drop some of the daft stuff like the "drawing on the TV" feature.

    Oh and I have a Panasonic Viera - an earlier model: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004QWYPOA - and the 'smart TV' features are pretty crap - it's very lacking in apps (only iPlayer and lots of crud) and the DLNA functionality isn't great either (seems to choke on content that my HTPC can play just fine). Picture's great though.

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    Re: Went TV hunting this morning and got a surprise

    You're being slightly disingenuous - something like this http://www.richersounds.com/product/...na-txl42e6b-bk would be 'better' by 99% of peoples estimations. Unless you're counting functioning as a highly inefficient central heating system as a quality point?

    If you match size I'd be surprised if you couldn't get something for £400.

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    Re: Went TV hunting this morning and got a surprise

    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    I think this was the stand out TV I seen.

    http://www.richersounds.com/product/...ana-txp42gt60b

    Similar looking to other Panasonic's but with a silver base. It was a very nice set but twice what I wanted to pay and three times what I paid for my current TV 8~ years ago.
    Yes, or wait a year for it to almost halve in price. Alternatively, get last year's almost equally as good model (pretty much what I linked to).

    But seriously, you had a 42" CRT? For <£300? wow.

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    Re: Went TV hunting this morning and got a surprise

    My short-list of features: 1080p, freeview hd, 3 hdmi sockets, appropriate size for the room.

    Do you have a requirements list other than "positives than negatives"?

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    Re: Went TV hunting this morning and got a surprise

    Quote Originally Posted by malfunction View Post
    Do you actually need all of the features that TV offers? I imagine you can get one significantly cheaper with similar image quality if you drop some of the daft stuff like the "drawing on the TV" feature.

    Oh and I have a Panasonic Viera - an earlier model: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004QWYPOA - and the 'smart TV' features are pretty crap - it's very lacking in apps (only iPlayer and lots of crud) and the DLNA functionality isn't great either (seems to choke on content that my HTPC can play just fine). Picture's great though.
    Most of features I have no interest in at all, and yeah I could do without just about all of them. A version of the plasma Panasonic I seen without all the gimmicks and at a lower price would be perfect, but I couldn't find one.

    Quote Originally Posted by herulach View Post
    You're being slightly disingenuous - something like this http://www.richersounds.com/product/...na-txl42e6b-bk would be 'better' by 99% of peoples estimations. Unless you're counting functioning as a highly inefficient central heating system as a quality point?

    If you match size I'd be surprised if you couldn't get something for £400.
    The the main issues I had was the LCD's seemed blury and responded very slowly. The low end plasma screens seemed to respond a little better but showed pritty bad striping and suffered from image artifacting.
    Last edited by jigger; 17-09-2013 at 05:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbouk View Post
    My short-list of features: 1080p, freeview hd, 3 hdmi sockets, appropriate size for the room.

    Do you have a requirements list other than "positives than negatives"?
    Yeah, I'm looking for something around 40" 1080p low response time that doesn't suffer from image artifacts and can handle high speed movement.

    HD freeview, HD free Sat and anything over 2 HDMI ports would be a bonus. Altho 1 HDMI would do.

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    Re: Went TV hunting this morning and got a surprise

    doesn't suffer from image artifacts and can handle high speed movement.
    Ahh the holygrail, you dont want much do you. If you are as fussy as I was when I first started looking at HD panels I wish you luck. Initially I saw only a handful of tv's I thought were as good as they should be and they were all very expensive!

    Maybe worth checking out some 3d models, I noticed that even some cheap 3d tv's have better image quality than some mid priced non 3d models. Mainly down to the better panel Id imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PK71 View Post
    Ahh the holygrail, you dont want much do you. If you are as fussy as I was when I first started looking at HD panels I wish you luck. Initially I saw only a handful of tv's I thought were as good as they should be and they were all very expensive!

    Maybe worth checking out some 3d models, I noticed that even some cheap 3d tv's have better image quality than some mid priced non 3d models. Mainly down to the better panel Id imagine.
    It's just I get that now from the CRT.

    I thought even the cheapest TV's would make the CRT look laughable by todays standards and expected to come home with something for around £500 that would knock the old TV into a tin hat.

    I really can't believe people buy some of the junk thats on offer. I don't think expecting not to have to put up with blurred images and artifacts left from the previous channel is to much to ask. If you setup my TV in the shop it would put most of the setts to shame even with it's 8 year old tube!

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    Re: Went TV hunting this morning and got a surprise

    I ruled out replacing my very, very old CRT 5 or 6 years ago due to being totally unimpressed with how terrible everything looked on LCD. I would have imagined they would have solved it by now (I've not looked, don't really watch TV any more), but it would seem they haven't.

    I was impressed with HD Golf and Cricket, when watching at a friend's house, but everything else HD seems pretty pointless

    That said, I don't much like moving my CRT - I'm amazed that TVs were ever something burglars went for!

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    Re: Went TV hunting this morning and got a surprise

    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    It's just I get that now from the CRT.

    I thought even the cheapest TV's would make the CRT look laughable by todays standards and expected to come home with something for around £500 that would knock the old TV into a tin hat.

    I really can't believe people buy some of the junk thats on offer. I don't think expecting not to have to put up with blurred images and artifacts left from the previous channel is to much to ask. If you setup my TV in the shop it would put most of the setts to shame even with it's 8 year old tube!
    You are preaching to the choir Jigger, I had the very same opinion. The catch with the new tv's is you must have channels in HD to get a artefact free viewing experience, which of course costs you a minimum of £130 pa via sky or even more via Virgin as to get even basic chans like itv2/3/4 in hd you need to pay for the most expensive XL tv pack. Freesat n freeview will only give you 5 or 4 HD chans. My main gripe with most HD TV's is they just dont handle standard def images very well at all making 90% of the channels unmatchable if you are sensitive to artefacts etc. I still have a crt in the bedroom and like you am more than happy when watching that.

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    Re: Went TV hunting this morning and got a surprise

    When I got my Samsung home a few years ago, I saw the image quality with horror and wondered what I had done.

    But remembering some advice I set about adjusting the contrast etc. They set them up for razzle dazzle brightness in shops to grab attention. Tweak the settings all down to the middle and the output looks really lovely. Never looked back.

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