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    Cutting out when idle.

    When i start the ignition, the car starts.
    Although if i do not rev the engine, the engine starts to wobble and then cuts out after about 10 seconds.

    - Head Gasket replaced not long ago.
    - Engine Management light shows, although it's been on computer and apparantly no serious faults.

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    Re: Cutting out when idle.

    hmm, could be a fuel mixture problem? Sounds like the car engine isnt getting hot enough so a change in the fuel mixture might need to be done. Just like a choke on a bike, if a cold day or bike hasnt been run then open the choke to add more fuel and let it burn to increase to optimal temp.
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    Re: Cutting out when idle.

    Has the car been sat for a while, my Mondeo did this and just needed a good drive.

    On the old Porsche I have a similar issue (low revs, sometimes dies), I think the actual problem is a leak in the vacuum system but a quick adjust of a screw to set the idle revs a bit higher has sorted it.

    If you can hold the revs up and it's ok then it might be an idle setting issue, no idea how to adjust that on a car with a computer though!

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    Re: Cutting out when idle.

    You say it has no serious faults.

    What other fault codes were read?
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    Re: Cutting out when idle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mintz View Post
    Engine Management light shows, although it's been on computer and apparantly no serious faults
    Ahh, that makes perfect sense! And the clown that did this probably advised to ignore it or take the bulb out?
    Last edited by tiggerai; 06-09-2010 at 08:57 PM.

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    Re: Cutting out when idle.

    Mechanic who did the computer found these..

    Mode 3, Static errors:
    P0108 Height Sensor / induction
    manifold pressure sensor
    signal too large

    Mode 7, Sporadic errors:
    P0108 Height Sensor / induction
    manifold pressure sensor signal too large

    After this he reset so the light does not show.
    He said:
    ' to find the problem the car will need to be striped down over two days '
    ' But it's not worth it,best to ignore the light as it will not cause you to breakdown etc'
    (17/08/2010)

    The car has worked fine since.
    Until last friday when the light came back and today the problem /as posted.
    (apart from once the car seemed to accelerate slowly for awhile).

    EDIT: When the car was bought in October 2009 - Management light was showing - Light Switch was changed and it was removed
    Last edited by Mintz; 06-09-2010 at 06:58 PM.

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    Re: Cutting out when idle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mintz View Post
    Mechanic who did the computer found these..

    Mode 3, Static errors:
    P0108 Height Sensor / induction
    manifold pressure sensor
    signal too large

    Mode 7, Sporadic errors:
    P0108 Height Sensor / induction
    manifold pressure sensor signal too large
    So it is a Wiring fault, Faulty sensor or an air leak on the induction system. I don't suppose he bothered to look at live data at all ? See what the fuel trims were? look for the signal from the MAP sensor? No, Thought not.

    He said:
    ' to find the problem the car will need to be striped down over two days '
    I think in a real garage that would be "it should take less than 2 hours to trace the fault"

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    Re: Cutting out when idle.

    Guess not :/

    Garage computer scan was done in are also electrical only.

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    Re: Cutting out when idle.

    Time to find a real garage

    Where are you based, maybe someone can recommend an Indy
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    Re: Cutting out when idle.

    Changed the spark plugs.
    Old ones had a build up of carbon on them.
    (maybe it's running rich? or was before it's been in garage)

    Altered screw next to lever to rev the car inside engine.

    Seems to be working now

    EDIT: Engine management light is still shown.
    ( I know alot of people just ignore this and car still runs fine )

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    Re: Cutting out when idle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mintz View Post
    Changed the spark plugs.
    Old ones had a build up of carbon on them.
    (maybe it's running rich? or was before it's been in garage)

    Altered screw next to lever to rev the car inside engine.

    Seems to be working now
    What your doing is trying to mask the problem. The problem is still there. If it is to do with an air leak or incorrectly measured air flow, The fueling will be wrong and eventually will probably ruin your catalytic converter while in the mean time your MPG will have decreased.

    EDIT: Engine management light is still shown.
    ( I know alot of people just ignore this and car still runs fine )
    Yes, Because they are stupid and trying to fool themselves that the light came on for no reason.

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    Re: Cutting out when idle.

    Meh, I tried to be generic but if you're changing spark plugs to fix a manifold pressure sensor....

    The fault codes you're getting are, imho, a result of having taken the head off. The sensors need to be disconnected to get the head off and it sounds as though they've not been reconnected properly.

    Check they're connected yourself.

    Check the inlet manifold hoses are all connected too.

    Sporadic codes mean just that, the issue isn't there all the time, usually clearing the code will cause it to go away.

    The fact you've got the same code under sporadic and static means there's an issue to fix.
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    Re: Cutting out when idle.

    Been to a garage told it could be a sensor for the fuel.
    Last edited by Mintz; 22-09-2010 at 11:56 PM.

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