Tyres

[arbitor]

sat-nav says im 6 mph out at 100..

Without the 45 profile tyre id still be out so it really doesnt make much difference.

[Howard]

Finally had a pair of Eagle NCT5s fitted yesterday. Etyres were great, came when they said they would, the fitter was friendly, knowledgable and finished in about 25 minutes Tyres are nice too... Slightly quieter on the motorway and they're not even worn in yet

[J4MES]

It'll make a bigger difference than you think

4% if I did my sums right...

/gets goat..

taxi?

[J4MES]

Finally had a pair of Eagle NCT5s fitted yesterday. Etyres were great, came when they said they would, the fitter was friendly, knowledgable and finished in about 25 minutes Tyres are nice too... Slightly quieter on the motorway and they're not even worn in yet

Good choice btw...

[herulach]

Without meaning to sound flippant, what's the point? I've happily been using ceat spiders or whatever crap is on offer @ kwik fit for the last 6 years with no issues whatsoever, and I have a fairly heavy right foot. If you're driving fast enough that you're worried yourtyres are going to let you down then you're driving far too fast. That's like motorcyclists claiming its ok if they do 120 on the motorway because they can stop sooner. Unless you have something with genuinly huge amounts of torque (which will probably have traction control anyway) then the wheels are only going to pin if you do it on purpose anyway, no matter what tyres you have on.

[Howard]

I don't drive fast, I'd just rather have something reliable, durable, comfortable and quiet, with decent all round grip. I'm quite happy to pay another £10-£20 per wheel (The cheapest tyres in my size from Kwik **** are £42) if it means I'm getting something decent, I don't believe in buying the bare minimum all the time

[Konan555]

If you're driving fast enough that you're worried yourtyres are going to let you down then you're driving far too fast.

Said by someone who's not been subjected to 'Corsa 60's' grip when there's a rain cloud in the air.

Seriously, it's not all about driving fast, it's about having a decent level of grip and handling should you ever need it. There can be a phenomenal variation in tyre performance and it's worth getting the right rubber because it's the only thing sticking your tin box to the road.

[arbitor]

Without meaning to sound flippant, what's the point? I've happily been using ceat spiders or whatever crap is on offer @ kwik fit for the last 6 years with no issues whatsoever, and I have a fairly heavy right foot. If you're driving fast enough that you're worried yourtyres are going to let you down then you're driving far too fast. That's like motorcyclists claiming its ok if they do 120 on the motorway because they can stop sooner. Unless you have something with genuinly huge amounts of torque (which will probably have traction control anyway) then the wheels are only going to pin if you do it on purpose anyway, no matter what tyres you have on.

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LOL at that... ever heard of grip??

You try a p6000 round a wet corner at 70 you will be in the hedge

Try an f1 eagle you wont, simple as that.

Your car probably isnt powerfull enough, or built to take corners at such speed it makes any difference what you use

[herulach]

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LOL at that... ever heard of grip??

You try a p6000 round a wet corner at 70 you will be in the hedge

Try an f1 eagle you wont, simple as that.

Your car probably isnt powerfull enough, or built to take corners at such speed it makes any difference what you use

I have of course heard of grip, but I think youve just made my point for me.
Since the cars mentioned in this thread are variously a Corsa 60, an astra and a 1.8 focus, I don't think the majority of people's cars are built to take corners 'at speed'. I'm fully aware there's a time and a place for performance tyres (I have 7 pairs for my mountain bike depending what I'm doing in what weather), I'd just question whether the road is it. TO use your example, you're taking your corner at 70 in the wet with your eagle f1s, there's a pool of standing water/diesel/pothole, you're still in the ditch, doesnt matter what tyre you've got. If you want them for reassurance or piece of mind then fair play, but to use them as an excuse to drive faster is frankly irresponsible. As I stated in my earlier post, if you've got a genuinely quick car then fair play, I was refering specifically to the mediocre stuff that 90% of us have to put up with (although hopefully not for much longer in my case)

[arbitor]

Id say a 1.8 focus for one can take a corner fairly rapidly

Yes the road qaulity is obviously a different issue, i just prefer to have extra grip...

[Konan555]

Since the cars mentioned in this thread are variously a Corsa 60

No, Corsa 60s are tyres. Very bad ones. Never mentioned what they where attached to. The tyre doesn't care what car it's attached to You can improve behaviour of a Focus or a Ferrari.

Now if a Focus can take a corner rapidly, I'm quietly chuffed now

[herulach]

No, Corsa 60s are tyres. Very bad ones. Never mentioned what they where attached to. The tyre doesn't care what car it's attached to You can improve behaviour of a Focus or a Ferrari.

Now if a Focus can take a corner rapidly, I'm quietly chuffed now

My apoligies, I assumed you meant a Vauxhall Corsa with with 60 bhp

[Konan555]

My apoligies, I assumed you meant a Vauxhall Corsa with with 60 bhp

They make them with that much power now?

Driving too hard on tyres?....

[SilentDeath]

If you want fun, something like these


or if you want wet grip, these are perfect


and if your old, just want some excuse to buy expensive tires... dont bother. get the cheapest you can, since your not going to use them...

[Vimeous]

Tyres can be very car specific. That said the common generalisation are usually true.

e.g.
Michelins Energys last at least 20k (well thrashed), grip ok and shift water reasonably. They're hard so don't offer the best all-round grip. Primacy and Exato are more fun and Pilots like glue.
Yoko's grip well in the dry (often very), a few versions ok in the wet. However as I understand it they'll only last 5mins!
Toyo's seem to be less extreme than yoko's, namely almost as good in the dry but better in the wet.
P6000's are terrible and don't deserve to sully the Pirelli name while P-Zero's tend to kick ass.
F1's are tyre genious BUT can be car specific. Their soft sidewalls do not suit hard-core performance nuts (On Civic good, on Integra Bridgestone better). Best all-round tyre I've ever used and phenominal in the wet but wear out in 8k if pushed hard in higher sidewall sizes (e.g. 55).
NCT5's are a good all rounder similar to the Mich Energy.

One thing is always true. Decent tyres save lives even at slow speeds.
It's not about travelling fast it's about enjoying travelling safely.

[SilentDeath]

To quote clarkson, "if a jobs worth doing, its worth doing fast"





And your safer if you try to drive fast, than if you try to drive slow (as long as your not being an idiot)





Anyway... how long should tyers last? (185/55/14)
Ive had my car about a year, the tyre pictured above was put on in september, and Ive done about 5k since then, I think its about half way down... (but importantly the wear is even across it... a complete lack of understeer/aquaplaning since i got these)
Id like not to need new tyres by the end of the year, and my back ones were about half way when I got car..