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    Re: Still getting it wrong, after 25 years

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    You'd left some tools under the hood?
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    Re: Still getting it wrong, after 25 years



    Go!Go! Gadget Underpants!

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    Re: Still getting it wrong, after 25 years

    Waiting on the answer is like waitng on Half Life 3 being announced.

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    Re: Still getting it wrong, after 25 years

    Yeah dude put us out of our misery - what was the problem? lol
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    Re: Still getting it wrong, after 25 years

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Engine mountings gone?

    I'm thinking for the reverse/tight left thing it has to be either something loose against the engine or the entire engine loose, and the entire engine loose can be harder to spot
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    and when it finally broke.. the whole engine was leaning over and the grinding was the Alternator grinding on the chassis leg!

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    Re: Still getting it wrong, after 25 years

    the engine/gearbox mount was allowing the engone to lean when I cornered left and when I reversed it was moving enough to bring the alternator wheel onto the chassis leg at the front where it stuck out a tad

    once it broke the engine fell sideways and under acceleration.. when back to it's neutral position.. hence silence!

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    Re: Still getting it wrong, after 25 years

    A mount and you didn't know
    Last edited by peterb; 25-08-2017 at 10:09 PM. Reason: Cough

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    Re: Still getting it wrong, after 25 years

    Quote Originally Posted by filbert View Post
    A mount and you didn't know
    i know... shocking huh.

    it had worn out the centre of the alloy casing so the bolt was still in it.... but it was moving along the length of the bolt a little.. and wearing out the inner edges of the alloy gearbox casing hole.

    Couldn't see it... I looked.. but didn't see the wear as it was inside the mount.

    the grinding noise was only when driving slowly and when stationary it was fine. no noise.

    No wheel bearing noises... and when I pressured/shook the egnine manually it moved only a tiny amount as it should

    But when that mount BROKE.. the engine fell over sideways and luckily I was 3 minutes from the garage.

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    Re: Still getting it wrong, after 25 years

    Had you replaced the timing belt or something shortly beforehand, by any chance?

    My car had that. PO took it to a garage, who reused the engine mount bolts (instead of replacing them, like you're supposed to on certain VAG models). Within a day the engine had sheared off and gone BANG. Fortunately it was repairable and I ended up with a pile of free junk and a new project, that is now a rather good car.
    Thought yours might be the same, as a VAG model?

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    Re: Still getting it wrong, after 25 years

    no, nothing like that.
    Was just v v old... 19 years old

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    Re: Still getting it wrong, after 25 years

    Much cheaper replacement than a gearbox! That has to be a win.

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    Re: Still getting it wrong, after 25 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Within a day the engine had sheared off and gone BANG.
    Bang? Zak's experience seems more typical IME, that seems rather unlucky.

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    Re: Still getting it wrong, after 25 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    i know... shocking huh.

    it had worn out the centre of the alloy casing so the bolt was still in it.... but it was moving along the length of the bolt a little.. and wearing out the inner edges of the alloy gearbox casing hole.

    Couldn't see it... I looked.. but didn't see the wear as it was inside the mount.

    the grinding noise was only when driving slowly and when stationary it was fine. no noise.

    No wheel bearing noises... and when I pressured/shook the egnine manually it moved only a tiny amount as it should

    But when that mount BROKE.. the engine fell over sideways and luckily I was 3 minutes from the garage.
    Always use a lever to check mountings, your strength isn't enough, same for suspension pulling on the wheel doesn't always show wear.

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    Re: Still getting it wrong, after 25 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    Was just v v old... 19 years old
    Mine's not far off that...

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Bang? Zak's experience seems more typical IME, that seems rather unlucky.
    Different car, but similar engine and part of same VAG, so I assumed similar symptoms.
    It's a known requirement (at least to pro mechanics or those who read the workshop manual) that the bolts are not reusable and must be removed and subsequently replaced when changing the belts. My incident is not so common because people know this is what happens if you try to reuse the bolts!!

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