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    Re: Why bother trying to cut back on emmissions? The US Pickup truck market aint

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    I don't know - isn't the fiesta the best selling car in the UK?
    What is that supposed to prove?
    Go look at the most popular TV programmes in the UK and then tell me if the rest of the world considers that (the programmes, or the audience) in any way normal...!!

    Quote Originally Posted by wazzickle View Post
    Well we could talk a lot about regional differences and why my local service doesn't allow for tetrapak cardboard at all
    Guys, brakes on, there - This is my workplace. Our office bins are handled by a (cheap) domestic contractor, not local council dustmen.

    Quote Originally Posted by wazzickle View Post
    Yes. This would astonish me.
    I was afraid you'd ask that...
    I'm still perfectly happy to do it, but I may have to ask you for my overtime rate, as well as payment for the subject being filmed as they'll have to sign a release form and everything, probably have to charge you for the rights to film on our site as well (which every film company has had to do, from James Bond to Day Of The Triffids)... and I'm sure there will be other expenses involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Butcher View Post
    Do they have kids? Because raising a child is an order of magnitude worse for the environment than driving an F-150.
    Is it?
    Don't mention this to the hippy-vegan guy at work with the Nissan Leaf... with that and my dirty diesel I'll never hear the end of it!!

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    Re: Why bother trying to cut back on emmissions? The US Pickup truck market aint

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Is it?
    Don't mention this to the hippy-vegan guy at work with the Nissan Leaf... with that and my dirty diesel I'll never hear the end of it!!
    Yup.
    https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...48-9326/aa7541

    Average saving for not having a child: 58.6 tonnes of CO2 per year.
    Average saving for not having a car: 2.4 tonnes.
    Also, since you mentioned veganism, average saving for eating a plant based diet: 0.8 tonnes.

    Having an electric car is basically pissing in the wind compared to these as the majority of UK power is carbon intensive, and making the car itself is carbon intensive. If he really cared he'd have no car at all and no children.

    Also I can basically do donuts in the carpark in an F-150 and still come out ahead of anyone with a child.

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    Re: Why bother trying to cut back on emmissions? The US Pickup truck market aint

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    What is that supposed to prove?
    Go look at the most popular TV programmes in the UK and then tell me if the rest of the world considers that (the programmes, or the audience) in any way normal...!!


    Guys, brakes on, there - This is my workplace. Our office bins are handled by a (cheap) domestic contractor, not local council dustmen.


    I was afraid you'd ask that...
    I'm still perfectly happy to do it, but I may have to ask you for my overtime rate, as well as payment for the subject being filmed as they'll have to sign a release form and everything, probably have to charge you for the rights to film on our site as well (which every film company has had to do, from James Bond to Day Of The Triffids)... and I'm sure there will be other expenses involved.


    Is it?
    Don't mention this to the hippy-vegan guy at work with the Nissan Leaf... with that and my dirty diesel I'll never hear the end of it!!


    You are my Labrador and I claim my £5!!!
    I mean this is even worse than not saying you can prove it. You say you can prove it and then ask for money to do so. Reduces your testimony to less than worthless in my eyes.

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    Re: Why bother trying to cut back on emmissions? The US Pickup truck market aint

    There has been news in Lincolnshire recently that district councils have different rules on what they collect for recycling. However all the material goes to the same recycling plant. Standardisation is desperately needed.

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    Re: Why bother trying to cut back on emmissions? The US Pickup truck market aint

    Quote Originally Posted by Butcher View Post
    If he really cared he'd have no car at all and no children.
    He has three, of which I'm aware.
    Thanks - I'll see what he has to say for himself!

    Quote Originally Posted by wazzickle View Post
    I mean this is even worse than not saying you can prove it. You say you can prove it and then ask for money to do so. Reduces your testimony to less than worthless in my eyes.
    DILLIGAF?
    Firstly, what makes you think this is a court, in which my anecdotes constitute a legal testimony?
    Secondly, what makes you think your opinion of the validity in my passing remark holds sufficient value in my own opinion to warrant working late, risking legal action and losing money just for the purposes of having you believe me?

    If you care that much about whether or not I am telling the truth, put your money where your mouth is.
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    Re: Why bother trying to cut back on emmissions? The US Pickup truck market aint

    I don't really care, just you seemed willing to prove it, then backed down. If you don't care whether I believe you or not, that's fine.

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    Re: Why bother trying to cut back on emmissions? The US Pickup truck market aint

    Quote Originally Posted by wazzickle View Post
    I don't really care, just you seemed willing to prove it, then backed down. If you don't care whether I believe you or not, that's fine.
    I never thought it needed proving in the first place, as it was just a passing counter to your assertion with slightly more qualification than simply saying, "That's not always true", to give it context.

    I'm not backing down and am still perfectly willing to prove it however you like, but I'm not going to all that effort and expense for free, is all.
    If you like, I could get a sworn statement from the aforementioned planet-saving persons, stating that they fail to acknowledge the bull-poo recycling service, instead? I don't believe they would charge for their time on that...

    Whatever floats your sandal... Have a think about it over the weekend and let me know.
    Not before 7pm on Sunday, though, as I'll be busy thinking of ways to get back on-topic in this thread about brick-shaped pickup trucks...
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    Re: Why bother trying to cut back on emmissions? The US Pickup truck market aint

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    What is that supposed to prove?
    Go look at the most popular TV programmes in the UK and then tell me if the rest of the world considers that (the programmes, or the audience) in any way normal...!!
    It proves that at least one American manufacturer does have it in their heart to produce a smaller car for as demanded by other markets than their home one.

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    Re: Why bother trying to cut back on emmissions? The US Pickup truck market aint

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    I never thought it needed proving in the first place, as it was just a passing counter to your assertion with slightly more qualification than simply saying, "That's not always true", to give it context.

    I'm not backing down and am still perfectly willing to prove it however you like, but I'm not going to all that effort and expense for free, is all.
    If you like, I could get a sworn statement from the aforementioned planet-saving persons, stating that they fail to acknowledge the bull-poo recycling service, instead? I don't believe they would charge for their time on that...

    Whatever floats your sandal... Have a think about it over the weekend and let me know.
    Not before 7pm on Sunday, though, as I'll be busy thinking of ways to get back on-topic in this thread about brick-shaped pickup trucks...
    How about this - I'll pay you for the time it takes you to record the video, and you pay me an equal rate for the time it takes me to watch it.

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    Re: Why bother trying to cut back on emmissions? The US Pickup truck market aint

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    It proves that at least one American manufacturer does have it in their heart to produce a smaller car for as demanded by other markets than their home one.
    Or that they just realised they can make more money off selling vehicles that can go round our corners?
    Harley Davidson was also supposed to be making new models specifically designed for European roads...

    Quote Originally Posted by wazzickle View Post
    How about this - I'll pay you for the time it takes you to record the video, and you pay me an equal rate for the time it takes me to watch it.
    I could happy with that. Depends on what rate you're offering.
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    Re: Why bother trying to cut back on emmissions? The US Pickup truck market aint

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Or that they just realised they can make more money off selling vehicles that can go round our corners?
    Same thing - ford is a business.

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    Re: Why bother trying to cut back on emmissions? The US Pickup truck market aint

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Same thing - ford is a business.
    Having seen how well other manufacturers did when making such cars, they'd have been fools to not eventually hop on the same bandwagon... but are their hearts actually in it, or is it just about the money?
    Ford still have a bad rep for shoddy cars, so I'm guessing the latter...
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