Next time you buy a car - will you care if it has Sat Nav?

[DanceswithUnix]

Does it matter on a Golf?
The whole point of Climatronic VAG systems is that you set and forget them. Shouldn't need to adjust them while driving at all.

I thought that was the point of *any* climate control system? Mine just sits on auto all year round, hardly touch it.

[Apex]

I really hate that everything gone integrated now, It also adds to the fact that its the fastest way to date a interior now.

The Nav in my V60 i hate using, so i've stuck to pairing my phone to my garmin nav unit, does a far better job.

For all the improvements they shout about it all feels a bit meh to me

[Ttaskmaster]

Do you mean with the Auto setting in the middle? My girlfriend uses that all the time but I'm not a fan. I like to set mine to 17 or 18 and then fiddle with it from there until I'm comfortable. Usually just a click or two either way.

Not necessarily. Depends if yours is Climatic or Climatronic. The latter does everything that the former does, but also has loads more monitoring and auto-alterations, to attain and maintain the exact temperature you dial in. The former tends also not to have multi-zone controls.

I thought that was the point of *any* climate control system? Mine just sits on auto all year round, hardly touch it.

Many people don't use Climatronic properly. They set it as if it were Climatic.

[Zak33]

i will now spell BUY corrctly in the title... what a plonker

[DanceswithUnix]

Many people don't use Climatronic properly. They set it as if it were Climatic.

Sorry, I guess those are VW marketing terms, does not compute.

I have a dial, I like being at 23 degrees so that is what I set it to, all year round. Wifey sets her side a bit lower. Perhaps Alfa have spoiled me. I *could* turn off auto and treat it like an old school aircon system, but can't imagine why I would.

[jimbouk]

So... for me.. I think the next car I get I will be looking for one without nav!

That's what I did. I was very tempted by an upgrade to the next trim level to get cruise control when we were car shopping, but it came with an 'upgraded' headunit with satnav which was a no-go for me so I just stuck with the mid level (yes it's a Dacia Sandero).

[Ttaskmaster]

Sorry, I guess those are VW marketing terms, does not compute.
I have a dial, I like being at 23 degrees so that is what I set it to, all year round.

That is the basis of how it's supposed to be.
Climatronic just has additional things like sensors that detect when the sunlight through the windows is heating the cab up. It's all automatic and fancy stuff you'd never otherwise notice.

I still prefer old school manual controls, myself.

[kalniel]

That is the basis of how it's supposed to be.
Climatronic just has additional things like sensors that detect when the sunlight through the windows is heating the cab up. It's all automatic and fancy stuff you'd never otherwise notice.

Other brands climate control does this too.

[Ttaskmaster]

Other brands climate control does this too.

Yes, but it still has no bearing if you don't use it right in the first place.
Basic AirCon is on/off, setting, strength, temp, fiddle, fiddle, fiddle, fiddle, fiddle.... Climate Control is set and forget, especially the fully automatic versions that auto-recirc when you go into reverse, or when it detects fumes from slow moving traffic.

I only mentioned Climatronic™ as it was in reference to a VAG car.

[cheesemp]

Nope - My current car (Seat Leon 15 plate) has it and I never use it. I just have phone mounted on a vent and use that. Far more interested in phone screen mirroring (i.e. Android Auto) to save stupid phone mounts. To be honest I'm far more interested in value/green credentials than any tech my next car has...

[Laktog]

My car has navigation available but I found Google maps on my phone way more comfortable. It can update road conditions and change routes in real time, has all places in it and is way more practical.

I think time of separate navigation in cars is gone, so next time I will not care!

[Gentle Viking]

I will not.
I only use NAV about 1 time every year, and that i can easy do with my phone in its nice dock.
BUT ! i would like a 2 DIN head unit.
The stick on tablet it seem like many cars now come with ( maybe its just a 2 DIN radio with a sort of remote screen ) anyway i do not like that.
My current car dont even have aircon, and when new in 2012 it also came without a radio.

[philehidiot]

I've not read all the replies but my advice is to always get a bolt on sat nav. It's cleaner and more pleasant to have it integrated but really, it's not sensible. Updates often require the dealer to charge you a fortune, a failure means there's no redundancy, you can't use the other systems which are managed through the infotainment screen at the same time and the car manufacturers often insist on building their own software which means it's inferior to companies that specialise in Shatnavs. For bikes, integrated sat navs are usually a specific bolt on model which integrates with the clocks and is removable. It usually has a bespoke connector. This means you have to buy the exact same model by the same manufacturer if it fails, gets broken or nicked.... as long as they're still producing it. I expect a bike to last 15 years.... you can see the problem.

EDIT: Two other things came to mind. Don't buy a car taking into account what the manufacturer says it will do with the software, buy it based on what it can do as you drive it off the forecourt. Why? I've seen a friend's car which could originally link with Android phones and mirror the screen, until Android moved on during development and they didn't update the car, selling it to him without that feature. They said there were plans to create their own software to ensure it was never an issue and not to worry. They abandoned those plans and so the car was left without the feature he wanted, which was to be able to use his phone's GPS software on the car screen. He hacked the system and made it work, but the point remains. Secondly, if you do want to use your phone as a sat nav on a regular basis consider the type of screen your phone has. OLED screens burn surprisingly quickly. Also, if you're charging as well as using a sat nav, the screen brightness often goes to full whack as it's in the sun. The combo of graphics processing, charging and high display output causes overheating in short order.