I7 920 into a Silverstone Sugo SG02 ?? Feasible ??

[McstylisT]

I am using a 4870 as its the graphics card i currently own. Its more than enough for my needs so I decided its up to the task. Less paying out more wonga.

For some reason the thread name has not changed to what i amended it to be. I am going to be using a Silverstone Sugo SG02 case which has a slightly better allowance for longer graphics cards. My 4870 is running @ 30% fan speed and it does not idle over 48degs. That's not that bad. ?? Im not a huge gamer , have a X360 for that. If needed though along the line i could upgrade the cooler on the GPU as well.

I will have to use both of my 2 5.25 drive bays. I am a burner man . Been through many systems with upto 10 drives in one. So you see I love my ODD's. So going down to 2 is still hard to come to terms with. lol !! !!

If using the XMS3 cosair DDR3 1600 could be hot , what other suggestions would you guys seriously look at. ? Bearing in mind it needs to be lower buget as possible. with at least 6GB. Thanks

McT

[Zak33]

I will be interested in how you get on. I'm thinking of upgrading and using the SG03, but I have similiar concerns. I already own a 4870, so I'm thinking of maybe trying to watercool it somehow. Current thinking is a 240 radiator on the side if there's enough depth for it. Would also like to overclock the CPU, but I'm aware this probably isn't the best case to do that! Again, might try to watercool it somehow. Chances are I can be patient enough until October when Win 7 is out, and just build a new system, with a new graphics card and a SSD.

my dad has an SG03 and it will hold a MUCH bigger card than a 4870, than my SG02 will hold, as it will go full depth of the case. front to back. The fan in the front of the case is moveable and I found it moved plenty of air through.

MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION TO ALL SG02 AND SG03 OWNERS ref airflow please?

Turn the fan on your cpu around so it SUCKS AIR up from the cpu, and make sure your PSU (which is right above it) also sucks air into itself and expels out of the back of the case.

This works supremely well. It is one of the reasons I took the Intel heatsick off my dad's QX6700 and fitted a cheap Akasa one. Cos I could turn the fan around, where as the intel one was not moveable.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I thought the SG02F could even accept an HD3870X2 graphics card if you removed the hard drive cage.




The main issue though is the amount of heat the Core i7 generates and whether it is advisable venting all this hot air through the PSU.

[Zak33]

I thought the SG02F could even accept an HD3870X2 graphics card if you removed the hard drive cage.

I'd never take out the hard drive fans. No way hose.

My excellent track record of long life hard drives is, I am CERTAIN, down to my insitence on cooling hard drive bays

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I'd never take out the hard drive fans. No way hose.

My excellent track record of long life hard drives is, I am CERTAIN, down to my insitence on cooling hard drive bays

Cooling hard disks too much can actually reduce their lifespan!! As long as the hard discs are under 40c during normal usage and over 30c too they should be fine.

[McstylisT]

my dad has an SG03 and it will hold a MUCH bigger card than a 4870, than my SG02 will hold, as it will go full depth of the case. front to back. The fan in the front of the case is moveable and I found it moved plenty of air through.

MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION TO ALL SG02 AND SG03 OWNERS ref airflow please?

Turn the fan on your cpu around so it SUCKS AIR up from the cpu, and make sure your PSU (which is right above it) also sucks air into itself and expels out of the back of the case.

This works supremely well. It is one of the reasons I took the Intel heatsick off my dad's QX6700 and fitted a cheap Akasa one. Cos I could turn the fan around, where as the intel one was not moveable.

Hi Zak33 ,

Yes , i do remember reading a statement like that when originally looking at the case reviews. Is it also true that to enable the psu to suck the air in and out the back , one would need to manually modify the psu. ?? Is it easy to do. Just wondering.

Thanks , McT

Ps - Regarding the SUGO 01/02 posts im sure you can install any card to a max of 9.6 without removing the HDD cage fan. Most decent cards come well within that range. In a small case , the more fans you can get in the better ...lmao.

McT

[McstylisT]

Good news. I have been able to get the whole system components ordered. I should get all the parts by Tuesday so hope to be up and running basically at least the evening.

Here is the full spec

SilverStone Sugo SG02 black case - SST-SG02B-F - Silverstone SG02B-F Evolution MicroATX SFF Case, Acrylic/glossy finish w/o PSU - Scan.co.uk

Thermaltake ToughPower 850w Modular PSU (current)

DFI JR X58 T3H6 Lan party MATX 1366 Mobo - DFI JR X58-T3H6, Intel X58, Sok1366, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 1066/1333/1600, SATA 300, SATA RAID, mATX - Scan.co.uk

Intel i7 920 D0 SLEBJ Nehalem Quad 2.66ghz - BX80601920 - Intel i7 920, D0 SLEBJ S1366, Nehalem, 2.66 GHz, QPI 4.8GT/s, 8MB Cache, 20x Ratio, 130W, Retail - Scan.co.uk

Scythe SHURIKEN rev B low profile CPU Cooler - SHURIKEN - Scythe Shuriken Rev.B Quiet Low Profile Cooler 3 Heat Pipe - HTPC Ready S775/939/AM2/AM2+/1366 - Scan.co.uk

6GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 12800 ( 1600mhz ) Triple Channel - TR3X6G1600C9 - 6GB (3x2GB) Corsair XMS3 DDR3, PC3-12800 (1600MHz), 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24 - Scan.co.uk

ATI HD HIS 4870 512MB GDDR5 (current) - H487F512P - 512MB HiS HD 4870, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), 3600MHz GDDR5, GPU 750MHz, 800 Cores, 2x DL DVI-I/ HDTV, HDCP - Scan.co.uk

Western Digital Cavair Green 1TB 32MB catch (current) - 1TB Western Digital WD10EADS Caviar Green, SATA 3Gb/s, IntelliPower, 32MB Cache, NCQ - Scan.co.uk

Samsung F2 EcoGreen 1.5TB 32MB Catch ( current ) - 1.5TB Samsung HD154UI EcoGreen F2 DT, SATA 3Gb/s, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ - Scan.co.uk

Microsoft Desktop 3000 Cordless Keyboard - Microsoft desktop 3000 wireless keyboard and mouse0dpi Optical Mouse, Silver/Black - Scan.co.uk



If all goes well this should be hooked up via HDMI to my Panasonic HD 32" 1080P LCD screen. But I need to look into this first as its also my TV and Xbox360 screen. I am also going to be after a decent blue ray drive in the near future so please put your recommendations forward for me.

[com87]

Awesome, I was thinking of doing a build almost exactly like this one. Let us know how hot everything runs, especially the i7 and 4870 under load.

[McstylisT]

Hi all.

Well did complete the build. Much fun doing so. With some excellent pics which i will show in good time.

However my first fears about temps are alive. In such a small case its beginning to show me why this was such a challenging build. With the psu wires cable tied together as best as possible and extra fans installed i still am not happy with the temps.

Im idle around 48-52degs. This is with speedstep and ht technology on. Also the turbo option with 21x multi. On full load it hits 80degs. Not good at all IMHO.

I've looked and looked and not cure what else i can do to bring them down any more.

The scythe cooler just does not seem to handle the i7 to me. It gets far too hot.

Any suggestions anyone. Will be hugely appreciated.

McT

[nightkhaos]

Underclock it?

And those temps aren't to bad...

[pollaxe]

I've just got a Corsair H50 running in my SG04 case. It's only a dual core (e6600) so I've no idea on i7s or SG02s but it seems a fairly nifty cooler for SFF cases and so far it performs a lot better than the old Blue Orb II I had in there..

[DeludedGuy]

McstylisT, whats the Temp inside your case?

[com87]

McstylisT, are those idle and load temps your cpu core or ambient? Because 48-52 idel and 80 load does not sound that high for a SFF.

[McstylisT]

Underclock it?

And those temps aren't to bad...

Hi m8.

Oooohhh ,, I could not allow my brain to do such a mean thing to my system. I went from a Q9550 @ 3.8ghz to this. Its got to compete with that reasonably well.

I have managed to control the temps much better though.

McT

McstylisT, whats the Temp inside your case?

Hi ,

Not too hot you know. Its around 50 degs.

McstylisT, are those idle and load temps your cpu core or ambient? Because 48-52 idel and 80 load does not sound that high for a SFF.

Hi ,

The ambient is around 50degs min. The CPU cores readings is what has been posted.

But this has been improved. I stripped the system down. Cleaned off the thermal paste and started again. This time i used the stock i7 heat sink and fan , and the fan part looks bigger and more able to move the air around compared to the low profile one.
Took my time with the best cable management i could do.

I have managed to lower them. On startup the system idles @ 44 working its way upto 48 degs.
When full load it reaches late 60's , like 65-69 across all cores. But does not go any higher. This is also with a basic 143 blck. So with the turbo enabled it shows as 3.003ghz. So with a slight OC here too. Does this sound any good. I feel much better , but would like to lower them even more if you have any ideas.

McT

[nightkhaos]

I have managed to lower them. On startup the system idles @ 44 working its way upto 48 degs.
When full load it reaches late 60's , like 65-69 across all cores. But does not go any higher. This is also with a basic 143 blck. So with the turbo enabled it shows as 3.003ghz. So with a slight OC here too. Does this sound any good. I feel much better , but would like to lower them even more if you have any ideas.

Unfortunatly the only thing I can think of your case is to work out how to lower the ambient temperature. The ambient temperature of my case is like 25 degrees at full, thus the full load tempertures I am getting from my CPU are actually because the CPU is working hard.

[com87]

The 4870 is probably contributing a lot of high ambient temps. To lower them you could try finding a pci slot cooler. Get it so that it sucks fresh air out the back and empties right into the intake fan of the 4870 so that it's a cyclic process. (this is assuming your 4870 has a slot cooler)