I7 920 into a Silverstone Sugo SG02 ?? Feasible ??

[McstylisT]

Hi guys.

Need some advice before i take the dive.

Right , I want to upgrade my system. Space is a problem so settled for a small form chassis case in a Silverstone Sugo SG02 case that i have already bought.
Now my plan is to install the following:

* Intel I7 920

* Asus Rampage Gene MATX motherboard

* current Thermaltake Tough-Power 850w PSU Modular

* 6-12GB DDR3 1333mhz

* ATI HIS 4870.


Does this sound completely obtainable. ?? I know this is a slightly larger case than most small form sized cases and with its ability to support larger graphics cards I thought this would be a fine build. ?

But will i encounter any heat problems do you think. ?? I have looked at the low profile coolers for LGA1366 and this one seems to be a good choice " Scythe Shuriken HTPC Rev B CPU Cooler AM2/775/1366 "

Honest and experienced advice welcome. Any other potential problems i could have overlooked please feel free to let me know.

I want to get everything sorted before i part with any cash. Please give me your thought.

Cheers all

McstylisT

[nightkhaos]

You should be fine with that spec. I would personally reocommend you upgrade to some 1600MHz DDR3 CL8/9 RAM.

For the RAM look at this set from scan.

I completely agree with the cooler, I was looking for it on Scan. I forgot it was a multi one so I was looking under Intel coolers, here it is.

I am considering giving my server a cooling upgrade with one of those and better cases fans. It's currently very loud.

What HDD(s)/SSD(s) and ODD(s) are you planing to use?

[McstylisT]

You should be fine with that spec. I would personally reocommend you upgrade to some 1600MHz DDR3 CL8/9 RAM.

For the RAM look at this set from scan.

I completely agree with the cooler, I was looking for it on Scan. I forgot it was a multi one so I was looking under Intel coolers, here it is.

I am considering giving my server a cooling upgrade with one of those and better cases fans. It's currently very loud.

What HDD(s)/SSD(s) and ODD(s) are you planing to use?

Hi Nightkhaos , Thanks for the reply.

I was originally looking at this memory HERE Would this not be a good idea then. ?? Not sure if its CL8/9 though. ??

Well I'll make that cooler the one i'll use. Its seems the best available for the low profile.

The rest is a bit of a re-use of my current stuff.

I'll be installing a WD Cavair green 1TB 32Mb catch and a Samsung Eco Green 1.5TB 32Mb catch. I also have a WD my book 1TB External but this is mainly used with my WD HD media player.
I have another 500GB Maxtor Im using a my OS drive at the moment , but as the SUGO SG02 only support 2 bays so this is the one thats going to miss out.

For ODD Im a little undecided. I have a few to hand. But I want one of the bays to use a blue ray drive along the line. But that will be once this is up and running. For the moment I think i'll use Pioneer 216D Sata and the LG GH22NS40 internally and a External Liteon 20A1P.
I also have in my current tower , but will probably sell on for extra funds : Pioneer 112, Pioneer 115 , LG H55N , Samsung 203P ,

Once again I really appreciate any info.

McT

[McstylisT]

What would you guys choose here. ?? DFI or ASUS

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-uATX-x58-Mobo

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/DFI-J...SATA-RAID-mATX


I was originally looking at the Asus. But after reading about the DFI it seems as good as any ATX board out there. Just curious to know what you lot think.

McT

[Blaineoliver]

Let us know how you get on.

[Pob255]

Well the Scythe Shuriken is probebly the best low profile air cooler

How much clearence is there?
quick look at scan's website and the alternatives are
Cogage MST-140 140mm Fan
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Cogag...66-and-775-Cpu
Thermalright AXP 140
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Therm...U-(without-fan)
Both are 70mm tall with another 25mm for the fan

also SuperMicro SNK P0038P 2Uplus, which is designed for a server so it may be passive and rely of case fans
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Super...te-pre-applied

also the silverstone NT05 which is only 75mm in total but does not have socket 1366 mounting
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Silve...RoHS-Compliant

[nightkhaos]

That memory you picked is CL9, which is slightly better than CL8

[McstylisT]

Let us know how you get on.

Hi m8 , yep will do.

McT

Well the Scythe Shuriken is probebly the best low profile air cooler

How much clearence is there?
quick look at scan's website and the alternatives are
Cogage MST-140 140mm Fan
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Cogag...66-and-775-Cpu
Thermalright AXP 140
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Therm...U-(without-fan)
Both are 70mm tall with another 25mm for the fan

also SuperMicro SNK P0038P 2Uplus, which is designed for a server so it may be passive and rely of case fans
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Super...te-pre-applied

also the silverstone NT05 which is only 75mm in total but does not have socket 1366 mounting
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Silve...RoHS-Compliant

Hi Pob255 , Thanks for the reply.

I believe there is only a mere 68mm clearance between the CPU area and the PSU. If im installing a heaksink with a fan then 68mm would be max. Though some do use NT06 heatsink which is around 70mm and have it full contact with the PSU. Silverstone actually designed the SUGO 01 and 02 with this in mind. apparently the PSU fan acts as a large suction and throws all the hot air back out via the psu. ??

I will definitely look at all my options as the cooler will be one of the last buys.

Thanks for the input. Much appreciated.

McT

That memory you picked is CL9, which is slightly better than CL8

Nice one m8. Thats good to know. I realise the Dominator is better but im on a budget and I can grab 6GB for around £80. Not bad ...

Cheers

McT

[nightkhaos]

Nice one m8. Thats good to know. I realise the Dominator is better but im on a budget and I can grab 6GB for around £80. Not bad ...

Not really. I'm looking at the higher end of their range and I see 3GB CL9 @ 1866, 6GB CL7 @ 1600, 6GB CL9 @ 1866, 6GB CL7 @ 1866 and 6GB CL8 @ 2000.

There have been various benchmarks that I have read that find the number of memory operations is actually limited various things, mainly the processor, once you get above about 1700Mhz. So anything faster than that is deadweight in terms of extra speed. You will not get any faster response time. Knowing this, the only RAM I would recommend is the CL9 @ 1866, and since you already getting that CL9 RAM running at 1600MHz for significantly cheaper, then why would you upgrade?

My only concern would be for the XMS RAM you picked would be heat. If you feel up to it, and don't mind losing one of your 5.25" bays, get a fan controler/temp moniter and place a probe on one of the sticks of RAM.

I also just realised I accidently linked the dual channel set, whereas you had already picked the tri channel one. I was looking at the links again to try and work out what I said and what you said you were getting. Good thing you completely ignored my suggestion, dual channel would have been bad.

And why didn't anyone else pick this up eariler?

[DeludedGuy]

* Intel I7 920

* Asus Rampage Gene MATX motherboard

* current Thermaltake Tough-Power 850w PSU Modular

* 6-12GB DDR3 1333mhz

* ATI HIS 4870.

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That’s great, the shuriken will also be great, however the only problem I see is the 4870.

The 4870 simply runs too hot for such a small case, you should look at an Asus GTS250 DK, they run about 35c lower than the 4870s on load and idle.

I have been planning my SG03 build for a while now, at one point I was considering the SG01 but after questioning some owners about heat issues, I decided to go with the SG03 case, its pretty small too so I am faced with heat issues also.

I was initially going down the ATI route, simply because of the HDMI audio feature and they are cheaper but nVidia make cooler cards.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Plenty of people run HD4870 and HD4890 cards in Shuttles so they should be fine and you can have custom fan profiles too.

I would look at getting an HD4890 as an XFX one is currently £129.99 from Ebuyer:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167969

Scan also have an HD4890 for around £125 on yesterday's Today Only webpage (maybe still there).

[DeludedGuy]

Plenty of people run HD4870 and HD4890 cards in Shuttles so they should be fine and you can have custom fan profiles too.

I would look at getting an HD4890 as an XFX one is currently £129.99 from Ebuyer:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167969

Scan also have an HD4890 for around £125 on yesterday's Today Only webpage (maybe still there).

Plenty of people do, I've seen it and I’ve also seen their case temperature, and I’ve seen them remove the top panel of their SG01s because it’s just too hot for all their components.

You can do it, but I certainly wouldn’t recommend it.

[Gerrard]

I will be interested in how you get on. I'm thinking of upgrading and using the SG03, but I have similiar concerns. I already own a 4870, so I'm thinking of maybe trying to watercool it somehow. Current thinking is a 240 radiator on the side if there's enough depth for it. Would also like to overclock the CPU, but I'm aware this probably isn't the best case to do that! Again, might try to watercool it somehow. Chances are I can be patient enough until October when Win 7 is out, and just build a new system, with a new graphics card and a SSD.

[DeludedGuy]

I will be interested in how you get on. I'm thinking of upgrading and using the SG03, but I have similiar concerns. I already own a 4870, so I'm thinking of maybe trying to watercool it somehow. Current thinking is a 240 radiator on the side if there's enough depth for it. Would also like to overclock the CPU, but I'm aware this probably isn't the best case to do that! Again, might try to watercool it somehow. Chances are I can be patient enough until October when Win 7 is out, and just build a new system, with a new graphics card and a SSD.

Yeah, I've seen a watercooled SG03, I'm at work atm, but when I get home Ill give you the link.

Im also going to buy the internal components in October once I get my Windows 7 delivered I have the case already, the fan controller, PSU, Keyboard, Mouse, basically everything which wont be going down in price anytime soon.

The case is lovely though, I cant wait to get to work on it, I will be painting the mesh blue, I have thought about cutting a hole at the top of the case, ive seen it be done, looks great but doesnt cool the case down by much tbh.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Plenty of people do, I've seen it and I’ve also seen their case temperature, and I’ve seen them remove the top panel of their SG01s because it’s just too hot for all their components.

You can do it, but I certainly wouldn’t recommend it.

Once you modify the airflow in a Shuttle their are less issues. The stock fans are crap too so it is worth getting rid of them too. People have had the hotter running 8800GTS 320mb and 640mb and even the 8800GTX in their Shuttles for years.

The SX58H7 will take a Core i7 and an HD4890 fine and if temperatures are an issues either replace the fans or run them at higher speed. Sure it is noisier but if you want quietness and higher end components together SFF is NOT the way to go IMHO.

[Zak33]

I have an SGO2 and I have a 4870 toxic in it and I have also ran a 1gig 4870 in it too. No hassle.

There is a fan hole in the top of the case above the video card, and a bracket to support a small fan. I've used it the whole time and it sucks INTO the case and plonks the air straight into the video card vicinity.

To get the PSU cables to fit the end of the card, you must fit them both with the card slightly loose from it's slow at that end, then flex the hard drive caddy a tiny bit until the card will slip down into it's seat, at which point the lower of the two power supply plugs as it's CASING but not the leads, pressed against the alloy hard drive casing.