Corsair Carbide Air 740 High Airflow Cube
Our offices are often stuffed with cases, so many I have to literally climb over them (not kidding)
But I've not seen one of these before - I clearly lead a sheltered life. HEXUS reviewed it a while ago, so it's not new ...just to me.
http://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2016...8710613882.png
It's a big unit but it's lovely and it's sensible and practical and it works.
It's wide enough that the PSU and all the hard drives go in the back, behind the motherboard tray.
So the mobo and cpu and graphics card arent' influenced at all by the psu or hard drives. It's tidy too.
The side glass fits oh so neatly, and there's a lot of space for fans.
I'm not normally hormonally about cases ... bequiet's new Dark Base 700 makes that TWO exceptions to the rule this week alone, as it's a beauty, but this is a v v different thing. It's pure practicality. And it's blummin' good.
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Nice cases both, but that mITX case is just so deep! Someone should so one where the GPU runs vertically so you keep the tiny footprint but can still get a "proper" gpu in there...
I won't go on another Antec Aria rant (don't rant, don't rant), but I'm still concerned by just how few properly small cases are out there now. Although I reckon you could do something quite tidy if you scaled that Carbide concept down to mATX size....
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Originally Posted by
scaryjim
Nice cases both, but that mITX case is just so deep! Someone should so one where the GPU runs vertically so you keep the tiny footprint but can still get a "proper" gpu in there...
I won't go on another Antec Aria rant (don't rant, don't rant), but I'm still concerned by just how few properly small cases are out there now. Although I reckon you could do something quite tidy if you scaled that Carbide concept down to mATX size....
It seriously tiny -its actually shorter than a 500ML coke bottle!
The Antec is massive in comparison - the A4 SFX is actually shorter,and if two are stacked side to side are actually around the same width and same height!!
The main issue with the vertical cases,is they have to be wide enough at the bottom so not to topple over,so that usually means a squarer shape.
This means they are physically larger in volume.
For me mini-ITX is not just about footprint but about transport. I could fit the A4 SFX into a small bag and move it about on a train,etc much easier than even my current one,which needs a proper case with rollers.
Edit!!
One of my favourite vertical cases is the one Corsair uses for the ONE system:
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/system...rsair-one-pro/
However,it has a 66% increase in volume and needs propriety coolers.
Second Edit!!
Having said that HardOCP is where many of the cases like the A4 SFX and M1 originated from:
https://hardforum.com/forums/small-f...r-systems.102/
Its an awesome place to find out about these community designed cases.
Third Edit!!
Dan case just created their own cooler!!
https://hardforum.com/threads/dan-hs...tsink.1925480/
A community designed SFX CPU cooler!
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How many internal 3,5" bays does that thing have? Looking for a new enclosure for my next NAS build and need 8, looking at the Fractal Node 804, but Corsair also looks nice.
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
... The Antec is massive in comparison ...
But the Antec is also mATX, rather than mITX. In two dimensions it's pretty much exactly the same size - it's just the width where it's significantly bigger (in fact, I think you could stack two A4-SFX side by side and they'd be about the same size as the Aria).
But the A4-SFX is small even for an mITX case. There's a lot of mITX cases out there bigger than the Aria. It makes a mockery of using an mITX rig to game, because most mITX gaming cases are big enough that they could've been designed to take mATX motherboards!
You know me CAT - I'm a huge fan of small computers. So it does my head in when people design huge cases for SFF components... :confused:
EDIT: hopefully the AMD/Intel collaboration will mean we start to get more *properly* small gaming PCs ;)
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Originally Posted by
scaryjim
But the Antec is also mATX, rather than mITX. In two dimensions it's pretty much exactly the same size - it's just the width where it's significantly bigger (in fact, I think you could stack two A4-SFX side by side and they'd be about the same size as the Aria).
But the A4-SFX is small even for an mITX case. There's a lot of mITX cases out there bigger than the Aria. It makes a mockery of using an mITX rig to game, because most mITX gaming cases are big enough that they could've been designed to take mATX motherboards!
You know me CAT - I'm a huge fan of small computers. So it does my head in when people design huge cases for SFF components... :confused:
EDIT: hopefully the AMD/Intel collaboration will mean we start to get more *properly* small gaming PCs ;)
Its 7.2L and yes I agree as a mATX case the Aria is compact and quite a few mini-ITX cases are stupid sized,so you won't find any disagreement from me on that!! :)
Actually a while back I was thinking of changing out the old NSK4400 in another build for a new,and less tatty case which was smaller. Apparently none of the newer mATX cases under £50 are appreciably smaller,and have far worse build quality. Those old Antec cases where fantastic in hindsite! :(
Technically you could orientate the A4-SFX vertically as it has a solid front but I think the narrowness would mean it might topple over. But it does make me wonder if someone could produce a stabilisation bracket and plonk the power button and front USB3.0 port elsewhere it might be doable.
There is another case being designed on HardOCP too which is slightly larger(1 litre more volume):
https://hardforum.com/threads/ghost-...tters.1927960/
If that power button could be moved elsewhere it might work in a vertical orientation.
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virtuo
How many internal 3,5" bays does that thing have? Looking for a new enclosure for my next NAS build and need 8, looking at the Fractal Node 804, but Corsair also looks nice.
(x4) 2.5"
(x3) 3.5"
all round the back of the mobo with the PSU
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Zak33
(x4) 2.5"
(x3) 3.5"
all round the back of the mobo with the PSU
Was just coming back to update my answer with the same info, shame, looks like it's the Node 804 for me
Here's the Hexus review: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/chassi...ir-740/?page=1
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Originally Posted by
scaryjim
Nice cases both, but that mITX case is just so deep! Someone should so one where the GPU runs vertically so you keep the tiny footprint but can still get a "proper" gpu in there...
I won't go on another Antec Aria rant (don't rant, don't rant), but I'm still concerned by just how few properly small cases are out there now. Although I reckon you could do something quite tidy if you scaled that Carbide concept down to mATX size....
Standing that case on end with inlet fans on the bottom exhausting through the top should work out well for cooling as well, similar idea to the silverstone raven cases
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Zak33
(x4) 2.5"
(x3) 3.5"
all round the back of the mobo with the PSU
Kinda poor given the size of the thing - there's enough volume to fit a ludicrous amount of storage in the PSU side
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Xlucine
Kinda poor given the size of the thing - there's enough volume to fit a ludicrous amount of storage in the PSU side
That is true.. theoretical casevolume it's bloody mammoth.
But ....its magic is that 2/3 the space is just for mobo, ram, cooler etc.. and nothing blocks that.
So... we can lift entire mobo heatsink combo's in and out and not disturb anything else.. as the (7) hard drives and the PSU are round the back.
http://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2016...37488b8d75.png
I have just checked inside it and I don't think another hard drive caddy would fit. The PSU cables block the lower section and the space above the SSD rack doesn't look like it has any further fittings for another rack. It's got SPACE though....
Opposite that (top front) is the 3.5" caddy rack.
http://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2016...e23ef0bea8.png
Habving said all that..I've never had 7 hard drives and the principle of the easy access and clean internals on the mobo side make it ideal for it's job.
(my colleagues at bit-tech are using it)
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Stretch the 2.5" rack to 3.5" (multiple SSD's is a weird use case, too pricey for storage and anyone paying for fast RAID will get PCIe or M.2 drives), and extend it to the top of the case (basically replicate the existing 3.5" rack, but twice - there's room). Then add a 5.25" drive bay on its side between the cables to the left of the image and the case wall - voila, a case with the same motherboard access, same overall size, and serious storage potential (easily 9 3.5" drives, which can take bay converters to take 2.5" drives). The 3.5" drive storage above the PSU can be removable to provide access to the back of the CPU cooler, and there'll still be plenty of space to stash loose cables under the 5.25" drive
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Xlucine
... multiple SSD's is a weird use case, too pricey for storage and anyone paying for fast RAID will get PCIe or M.2 drives ...
They're probably not intended for SSD - a lot of enterprise and prosumer NAS drives come in 2.5" format to increase storage density for RAID arrays. You can fit up to 6 2.5" drives in a single 5.25" bay with the appropriate backplane. I suspect the multiple 2.5" bays is a hangover from that thinking.
That said, the case clearly isn't designed with NAS usage in mind - it's about optimal air cooling for high performance components (it's in the name, after all ;) ). And it's got plenty of drive bays for a high performance gaming rig...
Have to say if I was looking at a NAS build currently I'd be looking for something with a couple of front 5.25" bays and sticking some 2.5" backplanes in, but that's just me (see earlier comments about SFF!) ;) There's no doubt that in terms of storage/£ the 3.5" drives win comfortably at the minute though...
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I've got an M-ATX case that's also airflow optimised (not to the same level, but respectably so), and with a slot loading drive converter I've ended up with far more storage (4x3.5", 5x2.5", and a spare 5.25") than the cube. I'm just a couple centimeters in width away from my case fitting inside the motherboard section of the air 740!
If people want to get a case big enough to live in that's their prerogative, but you should at least have the option of doing something useful with the space