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    Watercooling 101 anywhere?

    Seriously thinking about watercooling now that the technology has had time to mature a bit.

    Are there any detailed guides to planning a setup floating around?

    Pros/cons to kits/custom designs? etc
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    Exactly the situation I found myself in recently.
    All I ended up doing was searching around and seeing what I could glean from distrbuted sources. When it came to comparisions of components, I used http://www.watercoolplanet.de/index.php?open=4 to provide a rank of sorts. http://tomshardware.co.uk/2005/06/09...r_cooling_101/ is probably as much of a guide as it gets.

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    I'd like to recommend Asetek kits for the beginner - they're pretty well made and give you everything you need in one box.
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    Is the choice of a radiator pot luck? or just get the biggest you can afford (without stressing the pump)?

    Not found anything with calculations on sizes for these things....

    How do you like your Asetek? and which kit was it? Can you tell how much head-room you have to ramp up the heat from you component? oh, and how quiet is it?

    Sorry for all the questions
    Last edited by shaithis; 12-07-2006 at 04:28 PM.
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    what will you be cooling? just the cpu?

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    CPU and GPU.....want to get rid of whiny fans.

    Really don't think my chipset fan produces much noise so would prefer to leave that as-is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis
    Is the choice of a radiator pot luck? or just get the biggest you can afford (without stressing the pump)?

    Not found anything with calculations on sizes for these things....

    How do you like your Asetek? and which kit was it? Can you tell how much head-room you have to ramp up the heat from you component? oh, and how quiet is it?

    Sorry for all the questions
    Radiator - not really pot luck, just dependant on which kit you get - some have a single radiator (i.e. the size of 1 x 120mm fan) or double or even triple. It depends on the space you've got - obviously you have to find somewhere to put all this stuff. I have a double radiator on mine which is fine for cpu, chipset and gpu (all overclocked etc).
    I really liked my asetek kit from the point of view as a newbie to watercooling a pc - everything you need is included and their pumps have neato software monitoring/flow control. Push-fit fittings also make it a doddle to plumb together (tip: push hard till you hard a definitive click) and work very well.

    My kit has been replaced with this one: CPU/VGA/Chipset cooling kit - http://asetek.com/main/page.asp?sideid=686 which differs in that the pump is now 12V (makes it easier) and the aforementioned flow control/monitoring software.

    Headroom - plenty really - even in the hottest weather i see pretty low temps and the drop on my gpu is quite shocking. Overclocking comes down to the limit of the hardware in the main, rather than temps forcing you to back down.

    Noise - very quiet indeed. You don't need to run the (quiet) 120mm fans at full blast (mine are at 7-8V) to cool well. The pump seems noisey initially because of trapped air - this dies down over an hour or so and then you can't hear it. I put about 2-3inchs of rubber foam under my pump and this literally removes all possible vibration (and therefore noise). I went with WC specifically to get a quiet PC and haven't been disappointed.

    Hope that helps m8. I know there's alternatives out there but i had a very good first experience with Asetek and can't really fault their kit.
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    Thanks very much for taking the time
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    My personal fav because it shows how to use a car heater core as a cheap effective radiator and proves a pretty decent guide but most likely as in a lot of casesw with guides they will all provide the little bits the other ones dont so its best to read a bit of this a bit of that.
    Spode's Abode - "The Ultimate Water Cooling Guide" clicky
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis
    Thanks very much for taking the time

    Most welcome - when I did it I just bought the kit and figured it out the hard way! Oh, last tip, have a stiff drink before turning it on

    Lots of helpful people here to answer questions so don't be afraid to ask
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    I found that in the waterchil kits, the tubing was a bit crap, and I also bought some other stuff (although I've forgotten what brand) which was really nasty, and further to that didn't have the outside diameter it claimed to.

    Anyway, as a result I ended up buying all my tubing from B&Q, it's a lot cheaper than anywhere else, it flexes well without collapsing/kinking and seems pretty durable. Further to that, you can get it in exactly the outer/inner diameters you require

    Oh, they charge by the meter... but they do let you cut it yourself... so generous values of a meter all round
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    is the reserator nto a good started kit? thats pretty simple isnt it?
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    apart from the fact that it looks like a 2foot, bright blue phallus, yes its a nice starter kit
    theres also a couple of aquacool kits out that are supposed to be minted will fetch model numbers asap

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    i really like the reserator,s i thinkt hey look nice. if anybody knows of any goign second hand.
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    The Zalman Reserators cool about as well as a good air solution. There are a couple of places that will let you customise kits, www.over-clock.co.uk being one. Their forums are very helpful, so don't be shy about asking them for help. There's also www.watercoolingshop.com .

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