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Well I took delivery of some lovely new cute little Monitor Audio Bronze B2 speakers (see here) and they are a huge improvement over the very cheap but fairly good JPW floorstanders I had before! I love these new babies!
So what home cinema setup do you guys posess? List your equipment and post comments on others' in here :p
Click the link in my sig to see mine :)
last may(2002) i bought a goodmans(iknow lol) 32" widescreen with dvd and 2 tall speaker things with dolby and cinema sound my wife thinks theyre great but with me being deaf it doesnt really make much difference great picture on the tv the dvd has been multi regioned as well that plays quite well
id rather spend my money on pc kit as thats where i do all my main watching of stuff
its a goodmans matrix bass enhanced home cinema system lol
I didnt realise you were deaf crapshot, must make some games hard as they dont always have subtitles?Quote:
Originally posted by CrapshoT
last may(2002) i bought a goodmans(iknow lol) 32" widescreen with dvd and 2 tall speaker things with dolby and cinema sound my wife thinks theyre great but with me being deaf it doesnt really make much difference great picture on the tv the dvd has been multi regioned as well that plays quite well
id rather spend my money on pc kit as thats where i do all my main watching of stuff
i wear hearing aids which help me "hear" just nhs ones but its better than nothing its hard distinguishing sounds cos of the poor quality aids i cant tell when people are creeping up on me etc...
doesnt stop me enjoying games tho
my kids scare the sh*t out of me all the time sneeking up and boo!!! some day i will get those siemens earpieces lol
At the mo, just a £50 Ronin DVD player from SVP which has worked VERY well considering its price.
28" Goodmans TV and Analouge phono 5.1 AMP + surround speakers, of which we only use the centre and 2 side ones cause of lack of space, plus im the only one who uses it cause noone else in the house understands how to use it even though its blindingly simple.
Not the best setup, but its better than a 17" TFT and headphones on my PC :(
When i leave uni and get a job im gonna get a proper setup, possibly a projector or plasma since TV's ultra high frequency whines really annoy me at times :(
Well
I've got a 21" Mitsubishi TV which I hope to replace with a 28" soon (freebie with a work order)
Sony 5 Disk DVD
Wharfedale Amp
2 x Jamo 50W floor speakers
And it does fine for me :D
Not really a great home cinema setup here but then again I manly watch series's of stuff so it dont matter that much to me.
Sony Wega 32`
NAD T550 DVD Player
NAD Amp (can't remember model and can't be arsed to go down stairs and look)
B&W Floor standers
errr that's it....ohh and a Nokia Digi box thingy
Sony Wega 29"
Sony DVD Player
Technics CD Player
Marantz SR-6300 Amp
6 x Mission m74i's
Silver Anniversary Speaker Cable
Hopefully i'll be getting rid of the DVD and CD player soon, and replace it with a quality DVD player with good CD playback. And i got to upgrade my Sky to Sky+ so i can get 5.1 film broadcasts, i don't know whether they broadcast 6.1 as well if it's available?
damn, you've got me looking at getting a REL Quake sub again! :(
Hmmmm.........setups...make me get all "electrical" ;)
Loewe TV.....32" Xelos and its NOT totally flat, and I love it cos of that :) It does a passable virtual surround, but not great.
soooooo, I have....
Videologic Digitheatre DTS which is just like every reviewever said about it: Awesome in films, top quality for the size and money, awesome bass, fantastic satellites, BUT crap centre channel. And it doesmusic OK-ish.....its subtle, and it suits my room 100%
3yr Old Pioneer DVD player, which I still aint changed cos it does lots already..but its next on the list.
On the PC I have an Audigy Sound Card, a Kenwood 6channel input amp (base model, good value) and Eltax Hollywood 5 speaker package. Its OK :)
You lot all have nice setups!
I wouldn't. There are a lot better subs available for the same money. That's what everyone says.Quote:
Originally posted by fondie
damn, you've got me looking at getting a REL Quake sub again! :(
BOO! sorry couldnt help myself:DQuote:
Originally posted by CrapshoT
i wear hearing aids which help me "hear" just nhs ones but its better than nothing its hard distinguishing sounds cos of the poor quality aids i cant tell when people are creeping up on me etc...
doesnt stop me enjoying games tho
my kids scare the sh*t out of me all the time sneeking up and boo!!! some day i will get those siemens earpieces lol
It's not as bad for gaming as i thought when you first said it, with your little monsters scaring you it sounds like you need the siemens a.s.a.p. before you need a pacemaker!!:p
like which? i have to say i haven't looked at subs at all in the last 6 months but the sub market doesn't exactly move very fast!Quote:
Originally posted by Howard
There are a lot better subs available for the same money. That's what everyone says.
Velodyne, MJ Acoustics, etc.
Take a look at www.avforums.com there are many experts there to assist in purchasing anything to do with home cinema.
thanks Howard, is hard when everyone raves about their own system to really compare things though, a lot of people seem to be suggesting a Paradigm Servo 15, but as it came out 4 years ago, i haven't found any recent reviews of it so it can be compared to todays newest subs.
The Paradigm Servo 15 is a well regarded sub IIRC.
Here's a review:
http://www.audioenz.co.nz/2002/0901.html
And 94 consumer reviews:
http://www.audioreview.com/Subwoofer...4_2741crx.aspx
And another review:
http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/frank10.htm
thanks howard, i found the last 2 before, but as i said i'm a little wary of consumer reviews, because they tend to be rather biased, and that soundtage review is from '99, as most of them are. NZ one i not seen before though, and is recent, so that's great, apparently they sell it at richer sounds for ~£500 (though it's not shown on their website), it's more expensive than the Quake at £320 but i might pop down to Richer Sounds and see if they've got one i can have a listen to, i have to admit, it does look very meaty, and as you might be able to tell from my setup already, i am a little bit of a bass junkie :) if £500 dissapears from my account and my house crumbles i know who to blame :P
Well you live in Surrey, so I'm sure I'll feel the shockwaves, and by which time, I'll be out of the country :D
But yes the Servo 15 will be simply amazing, much better than the Quake.
Just a question...Where have you got the centre Mission placed? Behind your TV? on top of it? Any chance of a picture of your setup, out of curiosity?
when i get back to Bath where it is all kept :p I've got the TV placed between the centre speaker and the right hand speaker, time for some ascii i feel :-
(m74i)...........(m74i).( TV ).(m74i)
(m74i)..........(fondie)...........(m74i)
....................(m74i)
Cool.
Would it not be better to put the TV onto some sort of small stand and have the centre behind it, sticking up from the top?
thanks for the suggestion but i don't really have to space, the added depth of the speaker and the gap between the speaker and the wall would bring the tv too far out into the room. also on it's stand at the moment the tv is just a little bit lower than the speakers, and i don't really want it down on the floor.
my positioning isn't perfect, but unfortunately i don't have a dedicated tv/lstening room so there are lots of other factors to consider, i've played around with it quite a lot, and so far how it is at the moment is one of the best compromises i've found. i'll just have to wait until i can afford to buy my own house, then i can sort it all out just as i'd like :)
ps. how on earth were you invisioning the speaker being on top of the tv, lol
Lol it'd be a bit wobbly!
Who do you live with at the moment?
Have you considered a Mission centre speaker that's designed for the purpose? :p
i did do when i bought it all, but i wanted 6.1 and it was cheaper just to get pairs of speakers, i didn't/don't want to 'waste' the money getting a centre speaker then not using the spare m74i. i'm at my parents at the moment, but i rent with friends in bath (where i go to uni).
i've now seen a lot a talk about this one :- http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pcplus_20-39.htm (as you can see the price seems to be going up all the time), but it's impossible to choose because everyone talks about how their sub is the best but most don't have any real comparison, i don't suppose you know of any good recent sub roundups?
Ah yes I forgot about SVS, they are very highly regarded also.
Go onto avforums.com and search for "which sub to buy" and you'll get a fair few threads recommending a small selection of subs.
I'm going to watch The Fast and the Furious now to test out my new babies' capabilities :p When I'm back afterwards I'll have a look through some magazines and online to find some group subwoofer reviews for you.
that's grand :) i did look on the forums and everyone recommends they sub they are using, not unsuprisingly, i agree a few names do appear most regularly, but i haven't found anywhere (maybe there isn't anywhere) that gives an unbiased comparison between them all, and i'm not going to be able to find anywhere where i can demo them together either. enjoy your new speakers :D i'm off to work now, i shall return at 7 in the morning :(
28" widescreen
cyber home dvd player (play every disc know to man)
sony 'babe' htbe-1 micro surround sounds system in a small room so the bass is immense :)
Philips 28" Widescreen TV
Pioneer DV-656S DVD/DVD-A/SACD player
Yamaha RX‑V640 receiver
Mission M74 floorstanding front speakers and matching centre and rear speakers
Lovely set-up for the money I paid for it (around £1350 including cables), the only thing I'd be tempted to change is the speakers but I don't really have the money to upgrade them right now. I'd also like a sub-woofer but to buy a proper sub-woofer (rather than one that just delivers bass) you need to spend £600+.
Not true. You can get an excellent one from Velodyne or MJ Acoustics for about 3 or 4 hundred
28 " widescreen
cyberhome sff multi region dvd player
and if i cba to carry them downstairs i get to use the jbl 5.1 system although i normally just take the dvd player and use the 24" t.v thats down there.
I use a sharp CD-PC651 system for my pc and ps2 sound atm
Yeah, but MJ acoustic ones (or at least the one I heard) don't fill a large room and they're not sub-woofers in the truest sense of the word. My system already has plenty of bass so I'd only need one for the sub-bass region of sound. I'd want something I can feel rather than hear. ;)Quote:
Not true. You can get an excellent one from Velodyne or MJ Acoustics for about 3 or 4 hundred
Still, the wood finishes on those MJ Acoustic subs are very nice. ;)
No offence son, but you are wrong.
A decent well built home cinema sub, like Velodyne, SVS, REL, especially an MJ Acoustics one will provide more sub-bass than you can handle!
You will feel it! What MJ sub did you hear?
You will not get NEARLY as low with your missions as with a dedicated subwoofer. I thought I had more than enough bass with my old floorstanders and I even built a sub which is excelent but not as good as the £3-4 hundred ones, and I was amazed at what I was missing out on.
I heard the MJ Pro 50 (I believe that was the name of the product) at Stevenoakes Hi-Fi in Guildford. Maybe the guy in the shop was influencing my opinion too much, but when he showed me the difference between floorstanders, floorstanders + MJ Acoustics Pro 50 and floorstanders + a £600 REL sub-woofer, I couldn't really tell the difference between the first two set-ups (certainly not enough to part with £350) but the third set-up did sound significantly better (but again, not worth £600, especially when put with my current meagre set-up).
The more "meagre" the speakers the better, with a good sub (The MJ Pro 50 is VERY highly thought of) it will integrate well with the rest of the setup and not interfere with the other frequencies while providing rumbling bass
one of the mods on www.avforums.com suggested that avforums might be arranging something involoving impoting SVS subs into the UK within the next few weeks.
i'd temped by a :-
http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pcplus_20-39.htm
or even a :-
http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pb2_plus.htm
( which someone reviewed here :- http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...hreadid=146561
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6) Jurassic Park III (DTS) Master Volume -11
Talk about being right there in the Spino T-Rex fight! We cranked it as high as we dared and the PB2-Plus hung tough, dropping our jaws with tremendous power. Every stomp felt like getting hit in the chest with an 80 pound medicine ball.
7) Star Wars Episode I: Phantom Menace (DD-EX) Master Volume 00
What HT sub demo is complete without the famous "pod race"? The canyon exits were spine shuddering, and the pod explosion felt like a cannon went off in the room.
that's what i like to feeeeel :) when i first listened to full Meridian setup and Jurassic Park 2 was demo'd, the bass was absolutely awesome, wonder if i can beat it :D
i'd rather spend the extra money and have something really good that i could then put into my next set up too, if people are still suggesting the Servo 15 as one of the top mid-range subs, which is now 4 years old, i'm sure one of these things will last a few years too, until my next upgrade :D
:D I'm glad I've got you obsessed!
Let me know what you decide!
I'm really proud of my DIY sub, it goes really low and kicks hard. Click the link in my sig, then click on the DIY sub link in that site to see a pic of it :cool:
hehe, cool, user satisfaction! :D looks like a giant candle to me :p i can see where your sig came from now, hehe.
i've been toying with the idea of getting a sub since i started planning my system about a year ago, in the end i kind of decided i'd save my money for something more housemate friendly, i guess this will be a test of whether i want more bass more than housemates that will talk to me :p
If you stick the sub in the corner it won't be too obtrusive.
Until you start turning up the volume...
But I have my setup in my bedroom so I don't need to make it "lounge-friendly" or anything :p
hehe, mine is in my own room too, they've got my piddly 14" sony tv downstairs with integrated speakers ;) was more the noise, sometimes they get a little upset with my current system, as it makes every wall in the house vibrate, so adding a 900W Sub might just be pushing it :D
:D Better move out then! But then wait till you get married...
no woman who intereferes with my bass will be my wife thank you :) now for my last night at work :DQuote:
Originally posted by Howard
:D Better move out then! But then wait till you get married...
:D Lol
Where do you work?
Howard, thats your sub in the avatr then, i though it was an empty bowl with a fly in it at first due to just glancing sorry
think fondie has gone to work
:p Yep it's the driver for my sub. Take a look at the link in my sig for some more details of the sub if you like. This thread has gone kinda off topic somewhat!
no where now. been doing the night shift at sainsburys for the last 5 weeks (summer hol job), just finished my last ever, and 7th consecutive, night (69 hour week)! It is the worst job i've ever had, and am more than considerably relieved that it's over. It didn't pay that bad for unskilled casual work i guess, i'll get ~£570 for the week just gone, but i never want to work there again.
Damn, that PB2-Plus sub is looking oh so tempting, i mean, what else could i get for £800? Off topic isn't important, bass is :D
Well think to yourself that all that hard work has earnt you enough money to buy a bitchin' subwoofer.
My brother has the MJ Acoustics Reference 1, and it truly is something else. On the site it claims to handle frequencies down to 10 Hz, which is probably designed to just vibrate the floor as humans can generally only hear down to 20Hz :D
I absolutely love bass too like you! :p
That SVS looks rather hefty. 900 Watts? Into two 12" drivers? That's absolutely ridiculous beyond belief!
http://www.mjacoustics.co.uk/mjacous...ducts/ref1.htm This is the one my brother has. It sounds awesome, I'll tell you that much.
yep. i have hada look at evrything now mate and you certainly have a superb system. The sub is ace i cant believe you made it yourself congrats :)Quote:
Originally posted by Howard
:p Yep it's the driver for my sub. Take a look at the link in my sig for some more details of the sub if you like. This thread has gone kinda off topic somewhat!
Yeh, nutcase Americans :D from the review at http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...hreadid=146561 :-Quote:
Originally posted by Howard
That SVS looks rather hefty. 900 Watts? Into two 12" drivers? That's absolutely ridiculous beyond belief!
:D :D :D :D :DQuote:
and is capable of true Dolby reference level playback in moderately sized HT rooms
if i lived somewhere where it wouldn't upset anyone else, then i'd have no hesitation in getting it, but as it is i'm still weighing up whether i'll get away with turning it up often enough to get £800 worth out of it.
That MJ looks pretty tasty too, and is about the same price as the SVS...
Indeed. You don't necessarily need them at reference levels to enjoy it.
Howard , whats the impedance of that Sub ? looks like a car one to me.
In which case I'm sure you could have a lot of fun with a JL dual voice coil setup as the ICE folks have been using a lot - this does presume you have an amp capable of driving such a low impedance ?
The sub is 4 Ohms. I can't really afford expensive JL or equivalent subs :p
right, i've decided to go for a slightly less meaty sub to suit my housemates ears, and to some extent my wallet! and i've rather randomly picked one of these a BK XLS 200 from http://www.bkelec.com/ -> bargain basement, after a couple of good recommendations on AV forums, isn't really much info on it apart from that apparently it's put together with an amp and driver popular in the DIY sub world, maybe you can enlighten me Howard? i'll let you know how i get on with it if/when it arrives! :D
That sub does look pretty good, and if people on Avforums recommend it, it can't be that bad. It looks well specified, 200Watts is certainly plenty of power. 17Hz - I dunno whether to believe that or not, it's a sealed enclosure :| Although I'd say it'll provide an excellent low end to go with your Missions, so money well spent!
Here's a spec page:
http://www.bkelec.com/special/sp5.htm
yeh, that's the page i was trying to link to, hehe :p apparently that is tested in a car park, so i'm not sure what effect that has on the sound, i'm not really bothered with all the numbers though, as long as it sounds good! if it doesn't then i'll just sell it on and get something else (a good excuse to get that SVS monster :p), but from the few people who have one on AV forums i'm not going to be dissapointed.
That will sound good, trust me :p
Enjoy!
I had my DIY sub vibrating my mum's tortoise egg incubator downstairs earlier, she came up and literally screamed "turn that down!"
Oops :o
Well, For watching stuff downstairs, weve got a crappy tv, soon to be replaced by w a sharp widescreen tft, and a teac mini seperate hifi, with bose acoustimass speakers.
In my room, ive got me pc with an ATI AIW card, so i have tv and somethimes my ps2. I ve got my dads old hifi, a trio seperates system, and two massive Spendor BC1 speakers. As yuo can tell, the focus is on music rather than tv :p
Nice headbrace. Decent old stuff does indeed still sound fantastic!
I have some old crap, and if I ever start a home cinema, I want this to play a part :)
http://pro.bose.com/pro/dd/product/pdfs/awcs2t.pdf
No you don't.
Bose stuff is crap. Honestly.
But look at it. It could probably kill someone.
they even make weedy looking subs! and then try and hype them up with fancy marketing :( the girls would all point and laugh at you with a sub like that!
sorry caged, proper men don't use bose!
I wasn't being serious m8 :) I know you pay a hell of a lot of money for what you get, and even then it's nothing worth shouting about. Just paying for a name.
:) so why you not got a home cinema set up then ? you should be sent along to richer sounds, plenty of good quality bargain systems you can make :)
The first stage is throwing out that pile of crap Sharp TV and splashing out on a plasma or a nice Toshiba/Philips CRT TV. Then redesigning the whole living room around a home cinema setup :).
Believe me, if it were up to me we would have had a home cinema setup ages ago. I'm using a Denon UD-M30 in my room which sound superb, just need to convince the 'rents to spend a lot of cash on a decent setup for downstairs.
hehe, ok, doesn't have to cost a whole load of money though, can get a toshiba sd330 dvd player from amazon for £80, a marantz sr5300 from richer sounds for £250, chuck in some mission m7x series or some wharfedales and you've got something that'll sound great for not much moolah. parents suck at getting things done though, so good luck :)
Already got a Pioneer DV-U7
And proper bo it is too :)
What the hell is "proper bo" I hear it all the time now, what is the world coming to :mad:
i've never heard of 'proper bo' ever! enlighten us please!
I think it's some stupid new townie type word that means "really good".
I'm 16 and already starting to feel old!!!
go watch bo selecta you uncultured ruffians :p
friday night on channel 4.....prepare to be enlightened
Yes, I was taking the mic ;)