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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    Quote Originally Posted by b0redom View Post
    Yeah, I have 2 rears. I don't use a sub though as I kept getting shouted at. I guess I'm just trying to work out what will look and sound best.
    what do you mean no sub it's the most important part .. you can't have cinema sound without a sub ..
    you have to share what your watching with the neigbours
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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    there's an exception to that

    Corner loading. Every speaker is worth experimentation...

    choose media to test with

    place speakers in front of you away from corner. play media

    move speaker to corner and jam it in at 45 degrees so it's pushed against walls.

    play media

    them move speaker in and out, away from the wall and determine how it best sounds to you.

    Corner loading.
    Whether it's a corner or a flat edge, you are going to have to tackle reflections. But yes, experimentation is the key - it usually lands up a foot or two away from the back wall

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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Headphones
    Funny thing is that I am mainly a headphone user even when I had a 7.1 setup, but after moving, and not taking the speakers with me, I considered getting a soundbar for the perceived simplicity. In the end though, I opted for a beanbag with built in speakers. It was what it was, not a substitute for headphones for music listening, but it worked well enough for movies and games and allowed my head to be free. With the speakers being so close to the head, it had the added benefit of not being annoying for my flatmates despite the fair thin walls in an old building (very noticeable when the upstairs couple decided to be indiscrete ).

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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    Quote Originally Posted by TooNice View Post
    Funny thing is that I am mainly a headphone user even when I had a 7.1 setup, but after moving, and not taking the speakers with me, I considered getting a soundbar for the perceived simplicity. In the end though, I opted for a beanbag with built in speakers. It was what it was, not a substitute for headphones for music listening, but it worked well enough for movies and games and allowed my head to be free. With the speakers being so close to the head, it had the added benefit of not being annoying for my flatmates despite the fair thin walls in an old building (very noticeable when the upstairs couple decided to be indiscrete ).
    I like the feeling of being in a room of sound rather than the old cans too, but putting the same amount of cash of a decent soundbar (£500) into wireless, open-backed, 'phones of the best quality and comfort you can find might get awfully close and sound much better.

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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    That's fine and all assuming you're watching it on your own. I have a wife and 3 kids, so headphones aren't really an option.

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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    Quote Originally Posted by b0redom View Post
    That's fine and all assuming you're watching it on your own. I have a wife and 3 kids, so headphones aren't really an option.
    But then they can't complain about a sub if they're enjoying it too

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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    It's depends what's space you have it for, Sound bars is better to have.

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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    Finally got around to a pic:



    My current plan is to possibly replace the 3 speakers with Q ACOUSTICS
    3090Cs at the extreme left and right and centre of the unit, and rest the TV (probably a 55" OLED) on top of them. This would put the base of the new TV around 5cm above the current centre speaker.

    Long term Mrs b0redom is talking about moving/scrapping the units and having a built in set of shelves filling the entire alcove, but that's some way away.

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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    To me that space screams out for wall mounted dinky but good bookshelf speakers and a subtle sub.

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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    I've just been looking at the Cambridge Audio Minx 22s. They look OK, and MUCH smaller than what I have..... I'm just not sure they'd give a decent enough sound. The smallish sound bars I've seen aren't fantastic.

    Argh... decisions decisions......

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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    Replace the sideboard and media stand with shelving, no higher than the media stand. Mount the TV on the wall (not too high, you'll crink your neck), speakers can all be placed on the top shelf. Alternatively, the main speakers can be brought out a bit on speaker stands, which would likely produce a crisper sound.

    Small subwoofer behind the sofa to the right. Doesn't need to be loud, just something to deal with the low frequencies - you can put your cut over reasonably high to reduce booming form the alcove.

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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    Quote Originally Posted by b0redom View Post
    Finally got around to a pic:



    My current plan is to possibly replace the 3 speakers with Q ACOUSTICS
    3090Cs at the extreme left and right and centre of the unit, and rest the TV (probably a 55" OLED) on top of them. This would put the base of the new TV around 5cm above the current centre speaker.

    Long term Mrs b0redom is talking about moving/scrapping the units and having a built in set of shelves filling the entire alcove, but that's some way away.
    Mrs Boredom is EXACTLY right.. stop fannying about with pondering speaker and get a set of shelves in there

    May I suggest Ikea... you're looking to create a shelved, adjustable area, with TV dead centre, speakers in sections either side, media players below (doesn't need to be centre) and books, DVD's etc in the rest

    yopu DONT want backs to the shelves.. paint the wall white, get white shelves (cheapest) and running cables is easier.. with work you can clip them to the vertical and horizontal shelves to keep it looking good.

    you want FLOOR standing stuff so
    A) the wall is not under load
    B) the speakers will work better

    It will transform that room.

    TV remotes/magazines etc can go on there too, and if the shelves are adjustable for height etc you can adjust speakers later

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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    an Ika Tomnas would fit that though stereo speakers causes some concern.. maybe we can find an upright unit to match to its side if it fits

    http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/20306580/


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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    or a cheaper Lapland TV unit

    http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/80285155/


    with a Kallax next to it for the other speakers and more storage
    http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/pr...846/#/00275848



    being ikea they're both same height (147cm)

    183 width plus 42 width.. see if it fits!

    Dare you!

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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    like this
    but with another white unit to the side for proper stereo

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    Re: Soundbar or speakers?

    you could then buy another Kallax and lay it on top horizontally.. line it up with the vertical struts below and off to one side if needed.

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