new tv 4k

[flearider]

so i've got it down to either panasonic dx750 or SAMSUNG SUHD UE55JS8000
i'm leaning towards the panasonic as i own one of there 1080s atm and it's been a good tv for the last 5 yrs
both have hdr . and should be ok ..
anyone have any views ?

[g8ina]

What size ??

Also consider HIsense. Im dead chuffed with my 40 incher !

[flearider]

will be 55-60

[Smudger]

By the looks of it, the Panasonic has HDR, the Samsung doesn't. It says HDR Streaming, but I can't see anywhere what that means. Full HDR TVs should carry the UltraHD Premium tag.

[Jace007]

It really comes down to personal preference, Wat you should do is go to your nearest Currys and see the TV's there.
I was blown away by the Samsung SUHD. The Nano crystals tech makes the TV picture look so vibrant & beautiful, colours stand out & really nice perfect blacks.
It would be nice to see what 4K (Ultra HD) will be like on it, but there is so little out there at the moment and by the time 4k movies are out & main stream there will be better Tvs out.
Most TVs can upscale too but it comes down to How well they do that. I personal preferred the Flat Samsung over the curved one yet my best friend
says there is nothing better than Curved TV.

[Steve Morris]

I have seen these side by side, and I think that in terms of picture quality, they are a match. The Samsung has twin woofers, and produces a fuller sound, but otherwise it comes down to personal preference.

[outwar6010]

http://www.richersounds.com/product/...ana-tx50dx700b This is a 50" hdr 4k tv for £799.

[cptwhite_uk]

With regards to pansonic models

CX are 2015 sets and DX are 2016 sets. I was all set for buying a DX750, but then I saw the pricing on the CX models due to clearance.

The number after the letters represents the range, higher is better. The 50 inch CX802 was around £1800 at launch last summer. I bought it last month from Curry's for £739.99 and I've just spotted it's now available from this website for £622!

http://levaretech.com/index.php?rout...537&ref=GOOGLE

Never heard of them before and not sure what the warranty would be like.

This is promised a HDR firmware update at some point soon (presumably once stock is depleted to stop people buying it over the newer more expensive models). This was advertised as a HDR set last year and e-mails from AVforum users suggest it's imminent.

The motion processing and picture quality are superb, read the reviews from last year. It holds it's own with this years sets at a fraction of the price. £622 is an absolute steal for a top of the range set.

[flearider]

yeah went in to see the dx in real life next to a sammy was not impressed .. and it's not true hdr .. the screen is lacking 9 nits to 10 .. it looked very dull
so i'm still searching ..

[Spud1]

Do you have a budget in mind? Some general help would be:

1) Don't compare based on what you see in store unless you are allowed to bring your own source material and change the TV settings. In store TVs are set on Dynamic with awful colours and typically specialist demo material designed to sell TVs. It's not representative of the picture you will actually get in home and can be very, very misleading

2) Sound/Speakers are generally not an issue unless you are after a budget set (under £600 ish) - buying a fancy TV and using the built in speakers would be a huge waste. You'd actually be better off spending a bit less on the TV and putting the rest of the money into a basic A/V receiver + 5.1 setup. Even a soundbar will be better than built in TV speakers (and soundbars are generally rubbish!)

3) Where you buy it from matters - even if it costs a bit more money. You really want that 5 year warranty with a modern TV, and some retailers are better than others. Costco are the standout best, with John Lewis and Richer sounds a close second. Keep that in mind if buying online.

My personal preference with TVs is to buy one generation behind. E.g. go for a top end 2015 model - a Samsung 8000/9000 series (probably flat, not curved at that size - but ulltimately that depends on your room shape), or a Panasonic CX800/CX850 or similar. I've done this with my past 2 TVs and each time picked up a TV that was £2500 on release, for £1000 or just under. Finding stock can be tricky but this is where CostCo and Richer sounds do well, as they often have last years models in stock.

Ultimately it comes down to budget though. If you can afford it, the LG OLED panels are great..but expensive. Samsung and Panasonic are good as a next tier (at the top end of their range), and hi-sense are fine as a budget manufacturer, and tend to be better than the mid range sammy/panasonic models imo.

The samsung JS9000 55" can be had for around £1100 if you can stretch to it - thats a lot of TV for the money.

[cptwhite_uk]

I think Spud just hit the nail on the head, superb advise for all budgets.

[Steve Morris]

If you want a true HDR screen, perhaps the Samsung KS7000 is what you're looking for.
It's cheaper than the KS8000 but has the full 10-bit colour and 1000 nits.

[wazzickle]

I bought the Samsung UE50JU6800 (I think a size smaller and a rung down than the Samsung above) about a week ago.

Main complaint is the OS is slow but as it's mostly hooked up to my HTPC, it's not a big deal. Pretty happy with it and the price - £622 inc next day delivery and 5 year warranty from currys.

It has an HDR mode, but as far as I can tell it's only 8-bit colour.

Does anyone have a link to help advise me about optimum settings? Not very good at it.

[Spud1]

Does anyone have a link to help advise me about optimum settings? Not very good at it.

AVForums is a great place to start, or spend £25 on a calibration bluray if you want to take it further - I recommend the Spears Munsil one which is on amazon here:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Spears-Muns.../dp/B00CKWI13O

On a more basic note though, try and avoid using "dynamic" mode on the screen and if your set has a THX or "Cinema" mode, they are usually good settings to start with. Most decent sets allow you to copy settings between the presets so you can find one that is close, and then adjust to your liking. Before i got myself a calibration disk I used to use an episode of Dr Who for calibration - the main character in this episode (I forget which episode) was wearing a black suit, and I would make adjustments until I could see the fine detail on his suit (button holes, waistcoat etc) whilst maintaining a natural colour on his face.

It was actually that which convinced me of how bad dynamic mode really is - put it on dynamic and it looked like he was wearing a solid black suit without any buttons/holes/patterns etc. Properly adjusted you could see that it was actually a pinstripe suit with button holes etc, and and a black waistcoat. It is amazing the difference a proper calibration makes to darker scenes!

I have two calibrations setup that I use generally - one for bright rooms/daytime viewing, and one for dark rooms. They are similar but have differences in backlight and contrast settings in general.

[flearider]

Do you have a budget in mind? Some general help would be:

1) Don't compare based on what you see in store unless you are allowed to bring your own source material and change the TV settings. In store TVs are set on Dynamic with awful colours and typically specialist demo material designed to sell TVs. It's not representative of the picture you will actually get in home and can be very, very misleading

2) Sound/Speakers are generally not an issue unless you are after a budget set (under £600 ish) - buying a fancy TV and using the built in speakers would be a huge waste. You'd actually be better off spending a bit less on the TV and putting the rest of the money into a basic A/V receiver + 5.1 setup. Even a soundbar will be better than built in TV speakers (and soundbars are generally rubbish!)

3) Where you buy it from matters - even if it costs a bit more money. You really want that 5 year warranty with a modern TV, and some retailers are better than others. Costco are the standout best, with John Lewis and Richer sounds a close second. Keep that in mind if buying online.

My personal preference with TVs is to buy one generation behind. E.g. go for a top end 2015 model - a Samsung 8000/9000 series (probably flat, not curved at that size - but ulltimately that depends on your room shape), or a Panasonic CX800/CX850 or similar. I've done this with my past 2 TVs and each time picked up a TV that was £2500 on release, for £1000 or just under. Finding stock can be tricky but this is where CostCo and Richer sounds do well, as they often have last years models in stock.

Ultimately it comes down to budget though. If you can afford it, the LG OLED panels are great..but expensive. Samsung and Panasonic are good as a next tier (at the top end of their range), and hi-sense are fine as a budget manufacturer, and tend to be better than the mid range sammy/panasonic models imo.

The samsung JS9000 55" can be had for around £1100 if you can stretch to it - thats a lot of TV for the money.

do they do a flat screen in the js9000 ? 55 would be ok but 60 would be better .. looking at around £1000-1400
it's going on the wall so curved not so good ..
thx for your help

[Spud1]

do they do a flat screen in the js9000 ? 55 would be ok but 60 would be better .. looking at around £1000-1400
it's going on the wall so curved not so good ..
thx for your help

No it's curved unfortunately - but was just an example of the sort of value you can get. Curved ones do work on the wall as well as on a stand, but it depends on the shape of your room and how far away from the screen you will be. The curve is more subtle than you would think, but I think they best suit smaller rooms with a central viewing position, so if you have a larger living area (and if you want a 60", you probably do) then you are still better off flat.