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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    FX6300 remains the sweet spot for price/performance ratio, I reckon. You'll need to go for a nice 970-chipset motherboard, and you should be golden for years - particularly if you're not scared to overclock

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    I think most of Hexus are in agreement with scaryjim, the FX6300 is a great budget CPU with loads of potential to remain competitive in the future.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    I usually say the 6350 is the sweet spot as I think it is worth the extra tenner over the 6300, but I notice currently ebuyer have a £15 discount on the 6300 making it £25 less than the faster part.

    http://www.ebuyer.com/409191-amd-fx-...-fd6300wmhkbox

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Some news about the extra memory controllers:

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7702/a...e-gddr5-option

    Which is based on the conversation at Beyond3D:
    http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread...=61528&page=46

    Without a new chipset nothing can happen on desktop, but maybe the delay for mobile means there might be some high bandwidth laptops?

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by kompukare View Post
    Some news about the extra memory controllers:

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7702/a...e-gddr5-option

    Which is based on the conversation at Beyond3D:
    http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread...=61528&page=46

    Without a new chipset nothing can happen on desktop, but maybe the delay for mobile means there might be some high bandwidth laptops?
    It was talked about on SA forums beforehand too(not only B3D).

    Hans de Vries and the other posters on there were correct.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    This is interesting:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...den%2F&act=url

    An AMD document talking of a native 8 module CPU.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by kompukare View Post
    Some news about the extra memory controllers:

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7702/a...e-gddr5-option

    Which is based on the conversation at Beyond3D:
    http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread...=61528&page=46

    Without a new chipset nothing can happen on desktop, but maybe the delay for mobile means there might be some high bandwidth laptops?
    At the risk of sounding like a stuck record: Memory has absolutely nothing to do with chipset. This requires one of:

    1/ A new socket.
    2/ A new BGA pinout.
    3/ A pair of ram chips embedded into an FM2 package so the extra pins never go off package.

    Option one seems unlikely at least in the near future as they only just introduced FM2+ as a socket change and the motherboard makers don't like to change every five minutes.
    Option two is relatively easy but probably limited to laptops.
    Option three may work, though if there are limits on how programmable the channels are then it might be that if you have the external channels on DDR3 then the internal ones must be ddr3 as well.


    Of course, Option 1 may be a new Opteron socket as they will support ECC ram so might will be a different motherboard anyway.

    That is a *big* lump of silicon to be sat there doing nothing. They must have at least hoped to have a use for it.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    It seems Kaveri for mobile is coming in Q2/Q3 2014. I do wonder if mobile Kaveri will bring some surprises??

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    This looks like a nice small system:

    http://techreport.com/news/25900/tin...-from-maingear

    The OEM has managed to fit a discrete card into it too.

    Edit!!

    It seems to be a Gigabyte Brix:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...14%2F112780%2F

    There is a Core i7 based version too. So what is the point of the Iris Pro version again?? It seems you can already use a discrete card in such a small form factor.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    It seems Kaveri for mobile is coming in Q2/Q3 2014. I do wonder if mobile Kaveri will bring some surprises??
    well if the usual AMD process is followed it will be over-hype, leaked slides offering amazing gains, which ultimately translate to nothing special. Not bad, not great, just meh. But at least it will settle to a reasonable selling price (better than Intel anyway).

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    well if the usual AMD process is followed it will be over-hype, leaked slides offering amazing gains, which ultimately translate to nothing special. Not bad, not great, just meh. But at least it will settle to a reasonable selling price (better than Intel anyway).
    Looking at the A8 7600 compared to the A10 6700T,I expect IGP performance to go up a massive amount. The A8 7600 IGP almost matches the A10 5800K and A10 6800K IGP in less than half the TDP. Desktop Trinity A10 CPUs were around 40% to 80% faster in IGP performance than their laptop equivalents.

    I am more interested in the memory controller,ie,we might see laptops with quad channel DDR3(even if is soldiered onto the mainboard to save space).

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    This chap tested the A10 7850K in dual graphics mode with an R7 250:

    http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/th...cluded.196944/

    Performance in a number of games exceeds an HD7770.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    This chap tested the A10 7850K in dual graphics mode with an R7 250:

    http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/th...cluded.196944/

    Performance in a number of games exceeds an HD7770.
    But then that kind of defeats the point because it's simply cheaper for budget builders to go with a FX-6300 + HD 7790
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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeo01 View Post
    But then that kind of defeats the point because it's simply cheaper for budget builders to go with a FX-6300 + HD 7790
    Agreed. Price will drop like it did with Richland.

    I do like the look of the A8 7600 though,once it is available.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Agreed. Price will drop like it did with Richland.

    I do like the look of the A8 7600 though,once it is available.
    The A8 7600 looks like a beautiful little chip and I bet it'll be the sweet spot in the Kaveri line up. That exceptional 45/65W power package armed with processing power to put the old 100W A10-6800k to shame; I believe it's quite a success already

    HSA optimisation will only pave the way for better performance in the AMD department.

    I think it's simply a waiting game now, can only get better from now and thumbs up for AMD though, it's still quite frankly a bargain for what you are actually getting.
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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Some thoughts of mine about the suspiciously high Kaveri power measurements we've been seeing (in case you're not following that thread already): http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-review...ml#post3172841

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