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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    AIUI the IO die is identical to the one in 3000 series CPUs. If you can stay within the CCX then performance is better which makes average memory performance appear better, but if you thrash memory hard enough I don't see how it can copy any better than 3000 series.

    Intel may have a better pre-fetcher still. Or maybe one of their security flaws gives a nice leg-up.
    It seems rather weird and also rather dissappointing.

    Quote Originally Posted by stevie lee View Post
    they may hit the wonky FCLK at high memory speeds.
    according to PC Gamer anyhow https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-zen-3-in...ffer-pcgamertw
    seems the memory is wonky above 1800MHZ (so 3600 memory)

    AMD response (in that article)
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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by [GSV]Trig View Post
    I do find it amusing that Currys is cheaper than OCUK..
    OcUK gone down massively in my books, more so since the 30 series launch for me.

    Tbh over the last few years, I've slowly used them less as found other retailers more competitive (Scan, Amazon and even Currys!) to pick up things I'm after.

    As they dealt with the 3080 launch so poorly, I vowed to place my 5900X order with Scan - which I duly did today.

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Hi all,

    I managed to get a 5900x from Scan and order went through at 14.04 so fingers crossed I get it soon, has anyone had a despatch yet as I was hoping for a dpd delivery on Friday

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by delpy8 View Post
    Hi all,

    I managed to get a 5900x from Scan and order went through at 14.04 so fingers crossed I get it soon, has anyone had a despatch yet as I was hoping for a dpd delivery on Friday
    You would've hoped so! But no I ordered the 5900X too at 14:06 and not had a dispatch email either. I thought I'd got in quite early considering!

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by delpy8 View Post
    Hi all,

    I managed to get a 5900x from Scan and order went through at 14.04 so fingers crossed I get it soon, has anyone had a despatch yet as I was hoping for a dpd delivery on Friday
    I got an email update around midnight from Scan - seems to confirm it's a pre-order with ETA of 20/11 now.

    Not the worst, I can wait anyway. Not in a major rush!

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Am I the only one who doesn't get the whole fuss about Zen 3?

    Surely a biggish jump from Zen 2. In reality it doesn't hold that big of advantage in actual frame-rates for gaming over intel or discernable difference in productivity. Not to mention the higher cost.

    I'd jump from my Haswell i5 in a heartbeat, but for people with a good clocked/high-core skylake it's crazy spending so much for a slight bump..

    Then I'm a cheapskate and not really into the tech scene for the past few years

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by protagonist View Post
    Am I the only one who doesn't get the whole fuss about Zen 3?

    Surely a biggish jump from Zen 2. In reality it doesn't hold that big of advantage in actual frame-rates for gaming over intel or discernable difference in productivity. Not to mention the higher cost.

    I'd jump from my Haswell i5 in a heartbeat, but for people with a good clocked/high-core skylake it's crazy spending so much for a slight bump..

    Then I'm a cheapskate and not really into the tech scene for the past few years
    No your not,but the hype level has gone to 11. It solid but costs more,which is a bummer for some of us already on the platform. I should have just got a faster CFL CPU in the first place. Now its either a Zen2 CPU which is slower in some titles I play,or potentially a much more expensive Zen3 CPU which might match Cometlake(or be a bit better). Prices might drop next year,but then there is no real guarantee either,especially with our local UK situation next year.

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Need people's opinion to get 3600 or 5600X. I bought the 3600 just recently but having seen the benchmarks I wonder if I should switch.

    I am pairing this likely with the RX 6800 or 6800XT.

    Which one should I be getting? The price difference looks to be roughly £110. Is the additional performance justified?

    I am seeing an average performance improvements of just under 30% and for competitive shooter, which is what I often play, it can be like 80%!!! I definitely did not expect this.

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by SexyPotato View Post
    Need people's opinion to get 3600 or 5600X. I bought the 3600 just recently but having seen the benchmarks I wonder if I should switch.

    I am pairing this likely with the RX 6800 or 6800XT.

    Which one should I be getting? The price difference looks to be roughly £110. Is the additional performance justified?

    I am seeing an average performance improvements of just under 30% and for competitive shooter, which is what I often play, it can be like 80%!!! I definitely did not expect this.
    If you’re a competitive FPS gamer, then definitely go for the 5600X. It’ll be the new optimal performing CPU, the gains on competitive shooters is big.

    You’ll also benefit on Zen 3 if you’re combining it with a 6800/XT as it will be able to take advantage of the direct memory access feature.

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Well my 5950x from Currys PCW turned up today.

    Proof: https://imgur.com/qZHn5Pc

    I am surprised to say the least, never thought I'd say well done Currys PC World, especially as I didn't bother with the free next day shipping code at checkout.

    Just waiting for the rest of bits from Scan now whenever that might be.

    My brothers 5950x order from Scan is still in limbo.
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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by rs4847 View Post
    Well my 5950x from Currys PCW turned up today.

    Proof: https://imgur.com/qZHn5Pc

    I am surprised to say the least, never thought I'd say well done Currys PC World, especially as I didn't bother with the free next day shipping code at checkout.

    Just waiting for the rest of bits from Scan now whenever that might be.

    My brothers 5950x order from Scan is still in limbo.
    I'm in the Scan boat as well. How did you manage to order from Currys! It was just showing pre order for me the entire time.

    In hindsight Scan have been very transparent with their stock for the Nvidia 3000 series and the same seems to be happening for the AMD Ryzen 5000 series. Just hoping I'm not in 1000+ position!

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    I'm surprised Currys had stock before Scan maybe it's just down to buying power but by that logic Amazon should of been the first choice lol

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    I'm surprised Currys had stock before Scan maybe it's just down to buying power but by that logic Amazon should of been the first choice lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by charger View Post
    I'm in the Scan boat as well. How did you manage to order from Currys! It was just showing pre order for me the entire time.

    In hindsight Scan have been very transparent with their stock for the Nvidia 3000 series and the same seems to be happening for the AMD Ryzen 5000 series. Just hoping I'm not in 1000+ position!
    I had given up on getting one from Scan and was not going to support price gouging from the others. I didn't see any stock on Currys at 14:00 but for some reason at around 15:20 I refreshed the page and it was showing in stock, tried adding it to the basket and it would not add so refreshed again and it was out of stock then I spammed F5 until it showed in stock and tried again, eventually I managed to add it to the basket and then rushed the checkout. Received order conformation and invoice at 15:33, was expecting the order to be cancelled but received shipping conformation and DPD tracking just after midnight.

    Not sure what is going on with Scan, my brother had the order conformation and money taken but nothing about a pre-order or queue position yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by delpy8 View Post
    I'm surprised Currys had stock before Scan maybe it's just down to buying power but by that logic Amazon should of been the first choice lol
    Amazon UK did have stock and went live at 11:00 apparently.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UkG...ture=emb_title

    Interesting and seems to mirror Zen2. Apparently Wendell says 2X16GB is the sweetspot.

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Long time lurker, weighing in on the forums for the first time. Joined the Scan queue for a 5900x, am 1000+ in the queue unfortunately. No rush for the build at least, so can wait. Just hoping for sometime this month if possible, anyone else as optimistic?

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