This is hilarious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ssad0qZuU
Phage (15-06-2017)
Hmmm looks like I need to hang on to my cash for a couple of months. But it will be a Ryzen bundle.
Society's to blame,
Or possibly Atari.
Another great comparison by Hans De Vries.
It's also a more complex comparison as the higher core count versions of Zen use multiple smaller dies, in theory leading to higher yields (though there's still packaging yield to consider). But still - that 698mm2 Skylake die!!!
Seems the overhead (actual die size vs per core size) is all over the place for those Skylake-X core sizes:
Obviously since all the current Ryzen are based on the same die, they all have the same specs.
That's not really unexpected though - some sections of the processor will be about the same regardless of the die e.g. the fairly big memory controllers, IO, etc - things that are the same size become less significant the more cores you add. The core area itself looks to be fairly consistent across the dies.
Yes, that makes sense. Anyway, looking at the shots the Skylake-X dies don't look like the actual counts. Looks like all have redundant cores for yields (Turbo 3.0 might play a part here as they might have to bin for their magic 'Top Two' cores as well now).
10 cores looks like 12 (3 x 4)
18 cores looks like 20 (5 x 4)
28 cores looks like 30 (5 x 6)
Which makes each core (excluding overheads) about 20-21mm², and the rest of the chip between 71mm² and 79mm²:
Take another look at the dies, in particular, look carefully at the two outermost 'cores' on the second row from the top. They're not actually cores. I'm not sure what they actually are yet, maybe some sort of IO with a connection to the mesh.
I would guess from the way there is one each side that there is one per pair of memory channels, so probably memory control, buffering, prefetch etc. If you look at a normal quad core skylake there is a block for memory control and display control which is about the size of two cores, so if these don't have display outputs...
Interesting comments from TTL:
https://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=80970
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