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Corky34
I did watch it and it just reinforced my opinion that if all you care about is maximum FPS then Intel is for you, if on the other hand you want a better all round balanced system then Ryzen is for you, yes a single set of benchmarks often don't reflect all the strengths and weaknesses of particular hardware, even the DF article you posted doesn't, however, speaking personally, when buying hardware i review as much of the available information as i can, but that's because I'm time rich and money poor.
I would guess the majority of people just want to be told what's the best thing they can buy for their money and most review sites define "best" to mean fastest.
So the "maximum FPS" for Intel is just trying to make the Core i5 7600K look better,when DF have said as a gaming CPU the Ryzen 5 1600 is better. If you care about maximum FPS you would not be getting a Core i5 7600K since it does not produce as high minimums in newer games,and you don't seem to get that many websites just put on an average FPS chart,which means the Core i5 scores are overinflated.
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The Witcher 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider and especially Crysis 3 love frequency of course, but they also benefit heavily from as many cores and threads as you can throw at them, with both Ryzen 5s offering a significant advantage over Intel's stock Core i5. Here, Ryzen 5 sits comfortably at a mid-point between Core i5 and Core i7. However, not everything is as it seems based on the numbers alone. Assassin's Creed Unity posts a lead on the i5, but when studying performance at the per-scene level, i5 is pulling ahead in relatively empty scenes in our benchmark, with Ryzen 5 performing better in areas packed with NPCs. There's the suggestion that the i5 frame-rate average is boosted by big performance gains in less useful, more 'empty' rendering scenes. Similarly, in the Crysis 3 benchmark, the i5 and indeed i7's scores are skewed higher when the viewpoint shifts to similarly sparse scenes.
We've got a complete breakdown of this behaviour in our video review, but the bottom line is that it's not just different game engines that can favour i5 or Ryzen 5 processors - it can actually vary on a scene-by-scene nature in many games. And of course, therefore, results can vary depending very much on what scenes are chosen for benchmarking.
To illustrate, The Witcher 3's Novigrad City - our test area - can easily max an i5 quad with 100 per cent utilisation across all cores, and Ryzen 5 is faster here. However, benchmark a less demanding area or an engine-driven cut-scene and the i5 takes the lead. We've tried to tailor our tests to concentrate more on these heavier workloads and for our money Ryzen 5 is the more versatile, capable performer in areas where the CPU matters most in gaming.
People have been so used to hearing that Core i5 is the bestest gaming CPU for the average gamer in the world,they are in shock when it apparently is not as good as they think it is!!