AMD - Zen chitchat

[Xlucine]

If the laptop chip BGA socket is just soldered AM4, then the next batch of ryzen chips will use the same pinout

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

If the laptop chip BGA socket is just soldered AM4, then the next batch of ryzen chips will use the same pinout

That is why I think AMD is taking some time to get traction as OEMs are using existing Intel designs for the latest SKUs as KL/SKL/CFL are the same socket,so it should be quicker to rollout,but for AMD it needs a totally new motherboard design. However,once AMD gets some design wins,I think the second generation models will appear much quicker.

[DanceswithUnix]

Apparently Dell is launching one and I did see a mention on a techsite recently about it.

Am edging towards the Asus gaming laptop: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/laptop...strix-gl702zc/

Shipped with single channel ram, but that can be fixed.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Looks like the Final Fantasy benchmark is doing a Crysis 2:

https://forums.hexus.net/hexus-news/...ml#post3919274

[kompukare]

Seems Dell EMC is finally launching their EPYC servers:
https://www.computerbase.de/2018-02/...emc-poweredge/









EDIT: seeing how the embargo date is now, I had a look if other sites are carrying this, and found that at least Anandtech are:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12395...virtualization

[DanceswithUnix]

Bit worrying if this is widespread: at a large Internet seller AMD's best selling CPU is the 1600 which is outsold by Intel's twice as expensive 8700K.

https://wccftech.com/intel-cpus-outs...amd-cpus-2018/

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Bit worrying if this is widespread: at a large Internet seller AMD's best selling CPU is the 1600 which is outsold by Intel's twice as expensive 8700K.

https://wccftech.com/intel-cpus-outs...amd-cpus-2018/

Someone did some analysis over on Reddit and the numbers of actual sales are similar. Also how many people might have pre-ordered a Core i7 and waited months for one?

[scaryjim]

... at a large Internet seller AMD's best selling CPU is the 1600 which is outsold by Intel's twice as expensive 8700K. ...

That's only for Dec and Jan - from Aug to Nov AMD were outselling Intel by some distance. To me that looks like a massive anomaly caused by holiday season sales - people either buying CPUs for Christmas, or using Christmas money to buy CPUs. Presents don't feel like normal spending - value becomes a lot less important than perceived prestige, and Intel still has that Halo image from it's dominant single threaded performance and dominant market share. Only people who know their tech are going to be pleased with Ryzen as a present...

Look back at November, where pretty much every AMD chip from the 1600 up to the 1800X was outselling the 8700k. Same for October. In fact, AMD's sales figures haven't shifted dramatically over those last 4 months - they're still selling well. Intel's sales figures haven't shifted either - except for the i7 8700k. The R5 1600 and 1600X between them outsold every other Coffee Lake chip put together. I mean ... February's sales figures might come out in a month with the 8700k still outselling everything by around 2:1, and I'll eat this post. But to me the distribution there just reeks of anomaly.

The more I look at that chart the healthier it looks for AMD - their unit sales in Jan, despite having dropped off from a peak in Nov, are still ahead of Intel's unit sales for any month between May and Nov. I just can't bring myself to be worried about Intel selling a lot of unlocked chips over Christmas, when CPU sales generally are still buoyant...

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The core i7 8700k was very hard to get for tons at a reasonable price especially so I expect it's a lot of people who wanted one at launch getting one. What's more telling is the sales of the cheaper CFL CPUs.

The Core i3 8100 has even dipped under £100.

[DanceswithUnix]

Someone did some analysis over on Reddit and the numbers of actual sales are similar.

I guessed that was the case, but wow that is some profit Intel are making there compared to AMD. Interesting that 6 core CPUs are the sweet spot.

From the Jan figures, I guess Meltdown didn't hurt much.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I guessed that was the case, but wow that is some profit Intel are making there compared to AMD. Interesting that 6 core CPUs are the sweet spot.

From the Jan figures, I guess Meltdown didn't hurt much.

It is a smaller CPU in surface area but CFL was in reality a soft launch so it will be interesting to see if the momentum keeps up when the Ryzen APUs and Zen+ launches.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Ryzen desktop APU previews:

https://overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_..._apu_preview/2

[The Hand]

Roll on the 12th for the reviews. I thought the Ryzen Apus badges would have the Vega metal effect across the top like the boxes! By the way Amazon have the R5 1600 going for £158.99 at the moment, might be worth keeping an eye on... I have a feeling it might drop in the near future with Zen+ coming.

[Corky34]

An interesting result has turned up on the Sandra database, an Athlon 200GE is a 2 core 4 threaded part but the naming of it caught my attention, seems odd to call it Athlon considering it's a ZEN+Vega part and what's with the 200GE, something to do with an 200'th anniversary? Is the GE a gaming edition, graphics edition....thoughts?

[DanceswithUnix]

An interesting result has turned up on the Sandra database, an Athlon 200GE is a 2 core 4 threaded part but the naming of it caught my attention, seems odd to call it Athlon considering it's a ZEN+Vega part and what's with the 200GE, something to do with an 200'th anniversary? Is the GE a gaming edition, graphics edition....thoughts?

Embedded part? AMD seem to sell quite a few parts to people for things like digital signage who need some GPU grunt and not much CPU power.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Athlon would mean no IGP.