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    Coffeelake review thread

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    Core i5 8600k

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    https://hothardware.com/reviews/inte...-review?page=1
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/11859...nitial-numbers

    Intel Core i7-8700K,Intel Core i5-8400,Intel Core i3-8350K,Intel Core i3-8100

    https://www.computerbase.de/2017-10/...50k-8100-test/
    http://www.hardware.fr/articles/970-...350k-test.html

    Intel Core i7-8700K,Intel Core i5-8400,Intel Core i3-8350K

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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    So the tl;dr, is:

    -IPC increase is 0% or less
    -General perf is up by % of cores added, quite predictable
    -Gains a fair bit (up to 30%?) FPS in games if the game can use more cores properly, averages about 10%
    -Ryzen still offers more cores at each price point but the value statement is debatable by tasks performed
    Last edited by Ozaron; 05-10-2017 at 03:40 PM.

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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    Updated the thread!!


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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    I think I'm still going ryzen but am hoping to get a bit of a discount.
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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozaron View Post
    -IPC increase is 0% or less
    Well, anyone who was expecting anything different wasn't paying attention.
    CoffeLake = KabyLake = SkyLake

    Since they didn't change the architecture (all three are Skylake), the only way IPC could have increased is if they added extra cache or similar.

    That they max turbo has increased for each lake does make it harder see this. As usually Hardware.fr did their comparison at the same frequency:
    5 - Coffee Lake, Kaby Lake et Ryzen à 3.5 GHz
    http://www.hardware.fr/articles/970-...n-3-5-ghz.html

    Unsurprisingly, the gains of hex vs quad core are mainly visible in apps, but even games gain a bit - 8.9% not that dissimilar to the gain Zen gets from 4C vs 6C.


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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    IO wouldn't necessarily recommend it as a read, but I spotted gizmodo's review (https://gizmodo.com/intels-latest-co...ell-1819129322) thanks to it's rather hyperbolic title

    Intel's Latest Coffee Lake Processors Are Fast as Hell
    Which I found odd, given that they're almost exactly the same speed as the previous generation of processors, just with more cores!

    Also, they have a RotTR benchmark in there where a Ryzen 7 1800X destroys a bunch of Intel CPUs, which I found ... interesting? Is that just a game that loves lots of threads?

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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    IO wouldn't necessarily recommend it as a read, but I spotted gizmodo's review (https://gizmodo.com/intels-latest-co...ell-1819129322) thanks to it's rather hyperbolic title



    Which I found odd, given that they're almost exactly the same speed as the previous generation of processors, just with more cores!

    Also, they have a RotTR benchmark in there where a Ryzen 7 1800X destroys a bunch of Intel CPUs, which I found ... interesting? Is that just a game that loves lots of threads?
    I'm pretty sure that game was the outlier before where intel destroyed amd. I think whats happened is either tomb raider was patched to run better with more cores or the revewer knew about the benchmark issues and chose to got an average fps during a random part of the actual game.

    Update. I just checked and there was a ryzen patch.
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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    Are there any 8700 reviews?

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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozaron View Post
    So the tl;dr, is:

    -IPC increase is 0% or less
    -General perf is up by % of cores added, quite predictable
    -Gains a fair bit (up to 30%?) FPS in games if the game can use more cores properly, averages about 10%
    -Ryzen still offers more cores at each price point but the value statement is debatable by tasks performed
    IPC up 0% or less??? How can it go up by less than 0%?
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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason.Lyons View Post
    IPC up 0% or less??? How can it go up by less than 0%?
    By introducing the concept that across two generations in a row, deciding not to develop IPC is good enough for hundreds of pounds of our money? Playing the long con!

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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason.Lyons View Post
    ... How can it go up by less than 0%?
    The same way that real-terms wages in this country have just experience negative growth for the fourth successive quarter?

    There's a growing trend for avoid terms that have negative implications. It's everywhere. Like using positive-implication terms with actual negations attached is somehow better than just using the negative-implication words.

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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason.Lyons View Post
    IPC up 0% or less??? How can it go up by less than 0%?
    Basically down to power management and scheduling. A single core in isolation would be the same so strictly speaking the IPC has has not changed so 0% is correct, but viewed as a system a given job can take longer because eg thread migration from one core to another means caches don't work as well in programs tuned for 4 cores/threads.

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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    From a layman's perspective, it is disappointing that these new 8th gen CPUs require a new motherboard.

    That said the new i5 8400 appears to be a winner for (non-overclocked) gaming purposes and at quite a decent price point.

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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    It'd be a great price point if the motherboard situation was sorted out. For the foreseeable future it's the same cost as the 1600X; and that delivers SMT, runs at the same speed, and can be overclocked (slightly)

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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    It'd be a great price point if the motherboard situation was sorted out. For the foreseeable future it's the same cost as the 1600X; and that delivers SMT, runs at the same speed, and can be overclocked (slightly)
    LOL,it seems on OcUK the Ryzen 5 1600 is now dead for gaming and "too slow". Got to love E-PEEN.


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    Re: Coffeelake review thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    LOL,it seems on OcUK the Ryzen 5 1600 is now dead for gaming and "too slow". Got to love E-PEEN.
    Guess according to them that the i5 8400 is also too slow then. https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2017?vs=2024

    They trade blows.

    I was really surprised to see just how well the Ryzen 5 1600 and 1600x did. My memory from the launch was that they were slower. Maybe its the AGESA updates and/or faster memory.
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