Once a weakness is found it doesn't take long for similar mechanisms to pop up. I have to wonder if Intel/AMD with their inside knowledge of how the chips are wired will already have worked out some of these and are working on workarounds.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018...ction-attacks/
Thats it!! I am done with all these CPUs - time to go back to the abacus!!
Raspberry Pi 3 is immune, you just need to learn to complete your computing tasks in ScratchOriginally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
Thats it!! I am done with all these CPUs - time to go back to the abacus!!
And how to port all of the games you want to play, of course...Raspberry Pi 3 is immune, you just need to learn to complete your computing tasks in Scratch
Or, see if you can find an mITX board with a pre-Bay Trail Atom, since they're also immune to this kind of attack...
Oh I can find one, I have a D520 on an mini-ITX board on a shelf in the garage because it is so gutless as to be unusable. It was given to me for free by someone who found it so gutless as to be unusable. I could pass it on, but I don't hate anyone enoughAnd how to port all of the games you want to play, of course...
Or, see if you can find an mITX board with a pre-Bay Trail Atom, since they're also immune to this kind of attack...
Wonder how well it'd run an x86 Android image...... I could pass it on, but I don't hate anyone enough
The answer is in the phrase "so gutless as to be unusable"Wonder how well it'd run an x86 Android image...
Honestly, those things benchmark quite well partly because the dual core with threading support was pretty good for the day. The single thread speed is beyond dire, and the "feel" of it is worse than a Raspberry Pi 2 (not even a 3). Then there is the artificially limited amount of RAM you can plug in, 2GB isn't much for even a phone these days.
If you want an Android image, get a streaming box from GearBest or similar.
Presumably that's because of resource bloat in newer versions of Android? My old HTC Magic was 528MHz Arm v11 with 192MB of RAM and ran 2.3 fairly smoothly...
Or perhaps I just have much lower expectations of what a computer should be able to manage - let's not forget that in 2010 I was building 'refreshed' machines with Celeron D processors...
My HTC Hero was a bit of a dog with Gingerbread. Was alright until then. Same specs, probably the same machine under the hood.Presumably that's because of resource bloat in newer versions of Android? My old HTC Magic was 528MHz Arm v11 with 192MB of RAM and ran 2.3 fairly smoothly...
Or perhaps I just have much lower expectations of what a computer should be able to manage - let's not forget that in 2010 I was building 'refreshed' machines with Celeron D processors...
But hey, if your expectations are "worse than a Raspberry Pi now 2 generations out of date but in a larger form factor, requiring way more power and depending on awful Intel graphics drivers" then perhaps it is the platform for you
Note my main laptop only has an AMD E350 in it so it's not like I am a performance snob
British designed and British made - go us!!Raspberry Pi 3 is immune, you just need to learn to complete your computing tasks in Scratch
I've got a spare Zilog Z80B going for a good price...Thats it!! I am done with all these CPUs - time to go back to the abacus!!
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Not exactly how I'd characterise them, but probably not too far off... But hey, if your expectations are "worse than a Raspberry Pi now 2 generations out of date but in a larger form factor, requiring way more power and depending on awful Intel graphics drivers" then perhaps it is the platform for you
It did briefly occur to me that an AM1 platform would be a much better option ... then I checked and they support speculative execution, so are probably vulnerable to all these exploits... Note my main laptop only has an AMD E350 in it so it's not like I am a performance snob
This will all get patched before Joe Average has to worry (as long as they actually get patched).
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Even the AMD K5 was OoO and so probably vulnerable.It did briefly occur to me that an AM1 platform would be a much better option ... then I checked and they support speculative execution, so are probably vulnerable to all these exploits
I suspect the ARM A53 is the best CPU you will find that is static issue, the A55 is better but I don't know when it will turn up in consumer devices.
The outlier is Nvidia's Denver core. That is rumoured to be some sort of VLIW setup so software assisted wide static issue so *might* be immune and if not Nvidia might be able to code around the problem. Dev boards were about £300 if any are still around for sale.
Wikipedia confirms it had speculative execution, and aiui at least one Spectre variant can theoretically be crafted to attack any processor with speculation?
Back to playing Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure on the old 286 for me, then...
Perhaps we finally found a use case for the Itanium. Or perhaps we aren't *that* desperateWikipedia confirms it had speculative execution, and aiui at least one Spectre variant can theoretically be crafted to attack any processor with speculation?
Back to playing Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure on the old 286 for me, then...
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