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    5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    What are peoples thoughts about these processers?

    I have had a motherboard fail in my old 6700k system and I want to upgrade.

    I might have to get a temp processer while I wait for the zen3 stuff to come into stock.

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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    Whatever you can get hold of. The 5800X may be a better long term bet, but the 5600X is good with current games.
    But none of them are in stock, and you can't even get a cheap 3600 to tide you over

    Ebuyer are taking 5600X/5800X pre-orders right now. Prices aren't super, but probably better than buying and re-selling something in the meantime if you can wait.

    https://stockinformer.co.uk/checker-...5000-zen-3-cpu

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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    Depends on your requirements and if you're on a tight budget or not. If budget is tight and you need something now then I would even look into getting a second hand B450 mobo with 2600 or similar for now and then drop in a 5900X next year.

    If you can wait then waiting for stock makes sense. Based on the current line-up I'd get either the 5600X or the 5900X. The 5800X is poor value and not available in great quantities. The extra cache on the 5900X seems to make a difference in certain applications.

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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    IMO 3700X isn't a bad choice for 4k. The benefits of ryzen 5000 only really apply when you're chasing >100 fps, if you aren't playing counter strike then zen2 will be more than good enough (and saves some money you can put towards a better GPU when they're available). Game engines will be written with 8 slower zen2 cores in mind, so it'll be a while before a zen2 chip prevents you from getting playable framerates

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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    Personally it would be either a Ryzen 7 3700X,a Ryzen 9 3900 non-X in a bundle deal or the Ryzen 9 5900X.

    Edit!!

    This Ryzen 9 3900 non-X bundle with an MSI X470 motherboard is really decent value IMHO:
    https://www.awd-it.co.uk/amd-ryzen-9...pu-bundle.html

    This bundle with a B550 motherboard is not as good value,but still its better than the Ryzen 9 3900X pricing:
    https://www.awd-it.co.uk/amd-ryzen-9...pu-bundle.html
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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    I had the same thoughts over and over again and for me the price was the deciding factor.

    The 5600x is a beast, and for gaming you are not getting anything extra out of the 5800x. I went for the 5600x on launch day, hopefully arriving tomorrow! I thought if I ever get in the situation (a year or so down the line) I think its struggling I will just buy a second hand 5900x. But I realistically don't see it happening, I am sure it will be fine for a long time to come and a new build in a few years with DDR5

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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    Go with 5600x. With a decent cooling, like a Noctua or BeSilent! tower and PBO enabled, you won't see much difference between 5600x and 5800x.
    The only time I'd consider 5800x is if I was to do some productivity tasks on the PC. If you're a gamer like myself - stick to the sub £300 5600x.

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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Norkay View Post
    Go with 5600x. With a decent cooling, like a Noctua or BeSilent! tower and PBO enabled, you won't see much difference between 5600x and 5800x.
    The only time I'd consider 5800x is if I was to do some productivity tasks on the PC. If you're a gamer like myself - stick to the sub £300 5600x.
    +1 on the Noctua, I went with the D15s and its silent and keeps my sitting at 63 degres oc.

    Update - It arrived and made a huge difference! I mean TBF I was using a worn out i5 4690k, but the difference was huge, my lows in games were around 30-40fps higher. I mainly play warzone atm which is a hungry CPU game, but I play on the highest settings with RTX on and get 120-130 fps. My screen is only 100hz so I am loving life right now as everything just feels buttery smooth!

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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    I've gone for a 5600x too and I'm definitely not disappointed!

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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    The 5600x is perfectly fine for most. You will only see some framerate gains in specific CPU intensive games but for 90% of games out there the CPU will not be the bottleneck and you will at most find 1-4 frame rate improvement. Go Cheaper on the CPU and spend the rest on a better GPU (Graphics card).

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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    100% go with the 5600x! Take a look at Hardware Unboxed video that they put out today...at 1440p you aren't going to notice the difference as you'll always bottleneck your GPU first!

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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    Go with the best you can afford but if you plan on playing games primarily the GPU is the most important aspect. Balance the components in your system, no point having a monster cpu and then having to buy a lesser GPU.

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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    5600x is much better value, will perform pretty much the same as the 5800x in games, especially at 1440p resolution where most of the time, the CPU won't be the limiting factor. Where the 5800x is ahead it's normally only by 1 or 2%, so hardly noticeable. The 5600x is also cheaper and runs much cooler, and includes a cooler in the box, although I'd still recommend getting your own. But you can get a cheap air cooler like the Hyper 212 Black, whereas the 5800x requires much beefier (and more expensive) cooling.

    The 5800x does have more cores, which could make it better for future games, I can't predict the future but it's not something I worried about personally. Simply because the 5600x is already great for gaming now, on par with the 5800x, and by the time games utilise 8 cores, the 5800x will be outdated anyway. And it's not like games will suddenly stop running on 6 core CPUs once they start utilising 8 cores. The 5600x may only have 6 cores, but they're 6 very fast, very powerful cores, which is what games love.

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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by jwhitbread View Post
    100% go with the 5600x! Take a look at Hardware Unboxed video that they put out today...at 1440p you aren't going to notice the difference as you'll always bottleneck your GPU first!
    I agree, anything 1440p+ Seems like even a 3600 you'll not really notice any difference. Unless you've really got money to burn, or doing things other than gaming, it's just not worth it

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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    I've got the 5600x, couldn't ask for anything better. I would struggle to argue the value of anything more expensive. Hardware Unboxed has a great video about Ryzen scaling.

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    Re: 5600x vs 5800x for 3440x1440 gaming

    I feel like the 5800X is an outlier within the current SKUs? For gaming, 5600X seems great but if you are using it for multicore use, get the 5900X or 5950X? If you can get anything, that is. I was aiming for the 5900X but saw a 5600X in the wild at near MSRP, so grabbed it.

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