Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
I don't think a 5800X would bring any significant benefit to you considering your usage so it sounds like a 5600X is perfect for you. Unless you can find an amazing deal for 5800X that brings it within your budget.
Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
Thought about going for an X470 board instead? Would then support the 1700x and still leave room for going 3000 or 5000 series cpus at a later date, especially when the 5000 series has better availability. I know you give up PCIe Gen4 but depends if you care about that.
Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
amazon had some 5800X for £385 earlier today. You can watch on discord same as for GPUs. If your primary aim is gaming then by all accounts 5600X and 5800X not that dissimilar in performance. I'd go 5600X or 5900X if you can afford it. Nothing in between. The 3900x is a good versatile multi-thread CPU but single thread not as good as for 5000 series and no resizable BAR either.
Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
Photoshop seems to really like the 5000 series:
From https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...-5600x/11.html
https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-.../photoshop.png
Gaming also favours the 5000 series. More cores is always better, and there is a chance a 5800X might last longer, but I expect a 5600X will do you just fine.
Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
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atemporal
amazon had some 5800X for £385 earlier today. You can watch on discord same as for GPUs. If your primary aim is gaming then by all accounts 5600X and 5800X not that dissimilar in performance. I'd go 5600X or 5900X if you can afford it. Nothing in between. The 3900x is a good versatile multi-thread CPU but single thread not as good as for 5000 series and no resizable BAR either.
Could you link me to how to get stock alerts on discord?
Seems like general consensus is to get a 5600x or maybe a 5800x if as good deal comes up.
Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
A few things. Many photographers use laptops,and not even the latest ones. Most modern 6C and 8C CPUs will be easily faster than those,so unless the OP is really doing huge amounts of PS,then perhaps something cheaper will do. Also don't ignore the Intel options either!
1.)Under £200
Ryzen 5 3600/Intel Core i5 10400F/Core i5 10600KF
2.)£200~£30
Ryzen 7 3700X/Ryzen 5 5600X/Core i7 10700F/Core i7 10700KF
3.)£300~£400
Ryzen 7 5800X/Ryzen 9 3900X/Core i9 10850K
Any of these will be fine for the most part IMHO,and I would concentrate as much on a decent amount of RAM,and fast enough storage.
Edit!!
Also one of the cheapest ways to get a Ryzen 7 5800X or Ryzen 9 3900 non-X is via bundle deals:
https://www.awd-it.co.uk/amd-ryzen-7...pu-bundle.html
That deal had the Ryzen 7 5800X effectively at around £370(£500 in total) and was available until a day or two ago IIRC,so it might be worth waiting for stock. However,you will need to budget for a CPU cooler too.
The Ryzen 9 3900 non-X is even cheaper:
https://www.awd-it.co.uk/amd-ryzen-9...pu-bundle.html
That is with an X470 based motherboard for £425. There are also some other bundles with a choice of B550 based motherboards:
https://www.awd-it.co.uk/?subcats=Y&...roducts.search
Second Edit!!
Intel has had some major price drops too!
1.)10C/20T Core i9 10850K for around £380
https://www.cclonline.com/product/32...ooler/CPU0673/
2.)8C/16T Core i7 10700KF for around £280
https://www.cclonline.com/product/31...ooler/CPU0655/
3.)8C/16T Core i7 10700F for around £240
https://www.cclonline.com/product/31...ooler/CPU0665/
4.)6C/12T Core i7 10600KF for around £185
https://www.cclonline.com/product/31...ooler/CPU0653/
Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
I would go for the 5600x of your 3 listed choices, although if you wanted to save a bit of money without losing out on much performance some of the cheaper options cat-the-fifth listed would be better from a performance/cost ratio
I have seen 5800x from currys clearance on ebay that are brand new, going for £320ish, so if you fancy that you could look out for one
Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
If they really go for that low, then yes get the 5800x, if not 5600x is an excellent choice.
Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
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rand0m
I would go for the 5600x of your 3 listed choices, although if you wanted to save a bit of money without losing out on much performance some of the cheaper options cat-the-fifth listed would be better from a performance/cost ratio
I have seen 5800x from currys clearance on ebay that are brand new, going for £320ish, so if you fancy that you could look out for one
You can get it slightly cheaper if it restocks while the 15% off deal lasts, keyword is IF :'(
Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
i would say go for the 5600x, i was personally hunting for a 5900x but they are evidentily made out of unicorns so i picked up a 5800x. its lightyears ahead of my old 6700k but does run hot. hovers around 85* under a cinebench multi core run with thermal grizzly on a dark rock pro 4. paid about 365 for it via a one time use discount code which made it more palatable.
Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
With the recent Intel price drops and the fact that Adobe software generally has had the edge on Intel CPUs,something like a £185 Core i5 10600K or £240 Core i7 10700F makes more sense. Even if Zen3 is slightly faster,it isn\'t really worth the large price increase IMHO. Even the chart shown in this thread shows this!
Also,another thing is that both Zen2 and Zen3 seem to benefit a bit more than Intel,when it comes to having higher speed DDR4. So,unless the OP wants to buy some new DDR4,their 3000MHZ kit will probably not be ideal especially for Zen3.
Plus reading some of the earlier replies,I agree maybe getting a new motherboard makes more sense ATM. DDR5 is coming out late this year/early next year so maybe its worth also investing into whatever new Intel or AMD platform is out then??
Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
With the recent Intel price drops and the fact that Adobe software generally has had the edge on Intel CPUs,something like a £185 Core i5 10600K or £240 Core i7 10700F makes more sense. Even if Zen3 is slightly faster,it isn't really worth the large price increase IMHO. Even the chart shown in this thread shows this!
Also,another thing is that both Zen2 and Zen3 seem to benefit a bit more than Intel,when it comes to having higher speed DDR4. So,unless the OP wants to buy some new DDR4,their 3000MHZ kit will probably not be ideal especially for Zen3.
Plus reading some of the earlier replies,I agree maybe getting a new motherboard makes more sense ATM. DDR5 is coming out late this year/early next year so maybe its worth also investing into whatever new Intel or AMD platform is out then??
I managed to find a good deal on a 5800x and a Aorus b550 board, my 1700x was not holding me back so I think this upgrade will last a good 4 years. I do agree that some of the Intel CPUs make sense money wise, I do have a moral objection to Intel business practices that usually puts me off buying them. I think the only additional usage pattern that I haven't mentioned as it is something relatively new, is that my Wife also uses Premiere for video editing time to time and wants to do this more, where more cores like the 5800x will definitely help.
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Blaineoliver
I managed to find a good deal on a 5800x and a Aorus b550 board, my 1700x was not holding me back so I think this upgrade will last a good 4 years. I do agree that some of the Intel CPUs make sense money wise, I do have a moral objection to Intel business practices that usually puts me off buying them. I think the only additional usage pattern that I haven't mentioned as it is something relatively new, is that my Wife also uses Premiere for video editing time to time and wants to do this more, where more cores like the 5800x will definitely help.
The Core i7 is 8C/16T and the Core i9 is 10C/20T so similar core counts. Never thought I would see Intel as the budget option! :P
The best deal I saw was £380~£400 for the Ryzen 7 5800X and an MSI B550M Mortar from AWD-IT,as the that placed the Ryzen 7 5800X at between £350~£370. Also Currys had some damaged boxed Ryzen 7 5800X CPUs going for a bit less. So if you shop around there are deals on the Ryzen 7 5800X,unlike the Ryzen 5 5600X street pricing which is over £300!! The Ryzen 9 3900 non-X bundles have been going for as low as £400 with an X470/B450 too. Mate got one of the latter bundles and it works a treat for their video work.
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
The Core i7 is 8C/16T and the Core i9 is 10C/20T so similar core counts. Never thought I would see Intel as the budget option! :P
The best deal I saw was £380~£400 for the Ryzen 7 5800X and an MSI B550M Mortar from AWD-IT,as the that placed the Ryzen 7 5800X at between £350~£370. Also Currys had some damaged boxed Ryzen 7 5800X CPUs going for a bit less. So if you shop around there are deals on the Ryzen 7 5800X,unlike the Ryzen 5 5600X street pricing which is over £300!! The Ryzen 9 3900 non-X bundles have been going for as low as £400 with an X470/B450 too. Mate got one of the latter bundles and it works a treat for their video work.
would be easy to assume the damaged 5800x were all returns, they shipped mine in just a jiffy bag, the box was squished all to hell. chips was thanks thankfully
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
The Core i7 is 8C/16T and the Core i9 is 10C/20T so similar core counts. Never thought I would see Intel as the budget option! :P
The best deal I saw was £380~£400 for the Ryzen 7 5800X and an MSI B550M Mortar from AWD-IT,as the that placed the Ryzen 7 5800X at between £350~£370. Also Currys had some damaged boxed Ryzen 7 5800X CPUs going for a bit less. So if you shop around there are deals on the Ryzen 7 5800X,unlike the Ryzen 5 5600X street pricing which is over £300!! The Ryzen 9 3900 non-X bundles have been going for as low as £400 with an X470/B450 too. Mate got one of the latter bundles and it works a treat for their video work.
Managed to get a bundle on AWD-IT so it was pretty good pricing wise. The 5600X we saw were all £325 or higher so it was not a good deal at the moment.
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BattleBadger
would be easy to assume the damaged 5800x were all returns, they shipped mine in just a jiffy bag, the box was squished all to hell. chips was thanks thankfully
I had the same with my Ryzen 7 3700X which I got for around £215 off Amazon. The box was damaged but it all seemed fine when I opened the box.
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Blaineoliver
Managed to get a bundle on AWD-IT so it was pretty good pricing wise. The 5600X we saw were all £325 or higher so it was not a good deal at the moment.
My mate got their Ryzen 9 3900 non-X bundle off them. However,I am uncertain if they include a CPU cooler with it,so I hope you have one to hand. I might try and fiddle wround with getting the latency as low on your RAM kit as possible. Ideally Zen2 and Zen3 like the DDR4 RAM at between 3200MHZ~3600MHZ. Official DDR4 support is upto 3200MHZ.
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Blaineoliver
AWD-IT ... was pretty good pricing wise.
said nobody ever - have you seen the prices of GPUs on there recently?
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Blaineoliver
The 5600X we saw were all £325 or higher so it was not a good deal at the moment.
Amazon and currys have been doing them at £280 several times over the past week
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atemporal
said nobody ever - have you seen the prices of GPUs on there recently?
Amazon and currys have been doing them at £280 several times over the past week
yes, yes I have. Look at these:
https://i.ibb.co/2sphk9t/CCL-2070-XTrio-scalp.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/VjrJ7kb/AWD-3070-AM-scalp-850.jpg
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atemporal
said nobody ever - have you seen the prices of GPUs on there recently?
Loads of their deals went very hot on HUKD because they were really decent value. They have been consistently one of the cheapest places to buy Ryzen CPUs(especially as part of their bundles) for the last 12 months. I even remember back when the Ryzen 5 3600 prices went silly and went above £200,you could still order them as part of AWD-IT bundles for £160~£180. For the last year or so they were the only company to sell the Ryzen 9 3900 non-X in bundles,and had it for between £315 to £330,even when the Ryzen 9 3900X was going well over £400,and it was priced the same as others had for their Ryzen 7 3800X stock(without a CPU cooler). You can basically get a Ryzen 9 3900 non-X and a decent X470 motherboard for just over £400 on there.
One of the best deals I saw during the summer,was when they had a Ryzen 5 3600 for £160,a decent B450(for below RRP) and a free 240GB SSD thrown in too. Other retailers were charging £180+ for the CPU alone!
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atemporal
Amazon and currys have been doing them at £280 several times over the past week
Yet they have hardly any stock at the best of times - even tried adding one to a basket and it wouldn't add. AWD-IT had the Ryzen 7 5800X bundles with the MSI B550M Mortar for as low as £480 a few weeks ago and that deal was on and off for nearly 2 weeks! Even when it rose to £500 last week or so,it still worked out as £370,which makes it slightly cheaper on a per core basis than a Ryzen 5 5600x. They were basically the cheapest new Ryzen 7 5800X CPUs in the country for a few weeks,as the B550M Mortar was £130,which made the Ryzen 7 5800X £350. The only cheaper deal I saw was Currys Clearance with an Ebay code with damaged box ones.
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ik9000
The OP was talking about CPU prices,and I will tell you right now,their CPU prices have consistently been decent.
Their Ryzen 9 3900 non-X prices were even fantastic during the Zen2/Zen3 CPU shortage in the UK last year. When they had stock of their Ryzen 5 3600 CPUs,they charged £160~£180 in their bundles not the £200+ other retailers were trying to charge.
For example consistently they have been selling Ryzen 9 3900 non-X bundles with decent B450/X470 motherboards for just over £400.
Also I tracked Ryzen 7 5800X prices.
Currys were the first to drop them from the £420~£440 price to £400 due to a code last month. OcUK dropped it to £380 or £390 after that.
AWD-IT then followed by selling a Ryzen 7 5800X bundle with an MSI B550M Mortar a few weeks later for £480! It hit over 1700C on HUKD.
They also had the Ryzen 5 5600X and MSI Bazooka for £400 which was bang on RRP for both parts at the same time. But when you could get a better CPU and motherboard for £80,you can understand how good a deal it was. Then even when they increased pricing to £500 it was still pretty decent relative to other places.
Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
Looks like their head of PR is in the house!
Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
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atemporal
Looks like their head of PR is in the house!
This is a CPU thread - look at the title.You then you insinuated the OP were ripped off by showing some GPU price,which is irrelevant. Plus you did after they had already placed their purchase.
I just pointed out they have very good deals,which can be proven by looking on HUKD and various other places. Then you say its PR because you didn't realise over the last 12 months they had good deals.
Re: 5600x vs 3700x vs 3900x
Fair enough, but I stand by my comment that their gpu prices are unreasonable. I would put them at the "blatant gouging" level on the scalpometer.
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atemporal
Fair enough, but I stand by my comment that their gpu prices are unreasonable. I would put them at the "blatant gouging" level on the scalpometer.
Yes they are not great for GPUs,and their Intel CPU prices are not fantastic. AMD GPUs are the "best" priced on Currys so far from a quick glance but AMD is worse than Nvidia. Nvidia for FE is Scan,only because Nvidia use them as a partner.
Edit!!
For Intel CPU prices,Scan and CCL Computers,can be the lowest but it weirdly varies between model.
