ryzen warhol zen3+ compatability odds

[j1979]

Does anyone have any information or rumours as to whether the zen3+ cpus will be supported on b450 or x470 motherbaords?

failing that, do people think the chances are low or reasonable? I saw some youtube vids, that say that the zen3+ cpus are expected Q4 of 2021.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I suspect if Zen3+ exists it might be the first set of CPUs for AM5 and require DDR5?? Also even if a DDR4 version does exist,it might lead to discounts on the Ryzen 5 5600X and Ryzen 7 5800X(hopefully).

[DanceswithUnix]

The rumours only point to it being AM4, if you believe those rumours even: https://www.hardwareheaven.com/amd-n...d-of-the-year/

But B450? AMD folded under pressure with the 5000 series, but toss a coin on whether they will allow another series on the old platform. At this point there are enough reasonable cost B550 boards out there and we must be due a B650 at some point. If there really are CPUs and APUs using Zen3+ then that's quite a few old devices need to be removed from support in the AGAESA along with the already killed off constriction core Athlons and I think the original Zen parts. I'm guessing at that point B450 would support 3000 series and later, ie exactly what B550 supports. Which I guess is where the whole B450/B550 support rift came from

That chart where these rumours seem to come from, the top of the range Raphael having RDNA2 support rather than being a CPU... I don't know whether to be fascinated or just cry fake at the whole slide!

[j1979]

I suspect if Zen3+ exists it might be the first set of CPUs for AM5 and require DDR5?? Also even if a DDR4 version does exist,it might lead to discounts on the Ryzen 5 5600X and Ryzen 7 5800X(hopefully).

Discounts are long overdue! but seems like a distant dream with the current situation

[j1979]

The rumours only point to it being AM4, if you believe those rumours even: https://www.hardwareheaven.com/amd-n...d-of-the-year/

But B450? AMD folded under pressure with the 5000 series, but toss a coin on whether they will allow another series on the old platform. At this point there are enough reasonable cost B550 boards out there and we must be due a B650 at some point. If there really are CPUs and APUs using Zen3+ then that's quite a few old devices need to be removed from support in the AGAESA along with the already killed off constriction core Athlons and I think the original Zen parts. I'm guessing at that point B450 would support 3000 series and later, ie exactly what B550 supports. Which I guess is where the whole B450/B550 support rift came from

That chart where these rumours seem to come from, the top of the range Raphael having RDNA2 support rather than being a CPU... I don't know whether to be fascinated or just cry fake at the whole slide!

Hopefully even if they arn't offically supported some super cleaver person will hack the bios to support the chips.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Discounts are long overdue! but seems like a distant dream with the current situation

My main concern is if AMD will further jack pricing up with a Zen3 successor - I hope Alderlake is good enough at least to keep 6C and 8C AMD CPU pricing in check.