New AMD cpu 2022

[Spreadie]

Actually it's not perfect. Not at all. I can't find one for sale ANYWHERE!

Don't despair - It goes under a LOT of different names:

Tecware Fusion

Inter-Tech IM-1

ITEK Case Evoke

SAMA IM-01

NOX Extreme

Cube Gaming Axel

[badass]

Thanks both. When I've got the spare time I think I'll be changing my Silverstone Sugo SG02 with one of those. I have no ODD, and with M.2 slots on the motherboard now I don't see myself needing more than a single 2.5" tray for an Extra SSD.

[ChaosUK]

The PC building and gaming market is full of blithering idiots,who are clueless and they are setting the prices. I thought Apple fanboism was bad,but at least Apple fans will pay RRP(or below it) - PC fans just throw all their money,a kidney and everything apparently at "the precious" even with the RRP being high too.

No wonder we have stuff like this:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...-week-on-habit

What are people learning at school? Seriously can't they do maths?? Is it the parents spoiling them rotten? Goodness I really don't know at times,how much stupid there is in the world. No wonder so much is going to the dogs!

well some people want a functional machine other what the best of the best and then don't even use it...

same with phones that some change every year.. whats the point?

as for amd pricing we will see whats going to happened. I am hoping that they have some aces up their sleeve still and that 3dcache is actually good.
i also hate cpu with pins.. so i am happy they are going LGA

[kompukare]

Don't despair - It goes under a LOT of different names:

Tecware Fusion

Inter-Tech IM-1

ITEK Case Evoke

SAMA IM-01

NOX Extreme

Cube Gaming Axel

Seems the ITEK Case Evoke is availalbe via Amazon.eu
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07L8Y48RM
About £81. Still only gunmetal but for those who like the security of Amazon's CS this is better.

[ChaosUK]

idk if there is a point buying that "knock off" case.. i see nr200p dropping to around 65-70£ very often..
i bought mine in july for 64.61

[Spreadie]

The annoying thing is that I didn't know about the ones available on Amazon until AFTER I placed my SAMA IM-01 order on AliExpress. I knew about the Tecware, seemingly limited to Germany and not available at the time, and the Cube Gaming Axel in the Malaysia area. I didn't find the others until after I received dispatch confirmation - a couple came up in my Amazon recommended listings afterwards.

The SAMA was available quicker from America but it was double the price before any customs charges were applied, making it more expensive than my NCase M1. Sod that

So, mine is on a slow boat from China and I probably won't see it for another six weeks.

[ChaosUK]

maybe try nzxt h1.. these seem to sell for 150£ everywhere now.. after the fire fiasco...
with psu and aio its a steal.. i still like this case

[Spreadie]

idk if there is a point buying that "knock off" case.. i see nr200p dropping to around 65-70£ very often..
i bought mine in july for 64.61

It's not a NR200 knock off. It's about 15mm longer and 11mm taller and has four PCI backplates, so it can accommodate a full 244 x 244mm mATX board, whereas the NR200 can just about manage a small 3 slot 226 x 205mm mATX, with a bit of tinkering; but so can the NCase M1.

It is likely that it was manufactured by the same firm that produces the NR200 for Cooler Master though - there are far too many design similarities.

[kompukare]

It's not a NR200 knock off. It's about 15mm longer and 11mm taller and has four PCI backplates, so it can accommodate a full 244 x 244mm mATX board, whereas the NR200 can just about manage a small 3 slot 226 x 205mm mATX, with a bit of tinkering; but so can the NCase M1.

It is likely that it was manufactured by the same firm that produces the NR200 for Cooler Master though - there are far too many design similarities.

Exactly!

There was a HUKD thread about the NR200 and I made a fairly cryptic comment that I was waiting for the mythical NR230: the 23 litre version of the 20 litre NR200 precisely because the NR200 nees to be about 20mm bigger I made that as around 23 ltires.

This is that case. At some point Cooler Master may actually release a mATX version of the NR230.

While not as bad as waiting for Ali Express, I was a bit concerned that my GroovesLand order wasn't moving (their trackers are a bit hidden), had I seen the £81 on Amazon (even if EU) I would have gone for that.

As for the 12 litres or smaller case: I of course wanted the 4 DIMM slots as part of the reason I was able to stretch out my LGA1155 to almost a decade was because I was able to add more memory towards the end. Also, I wanted the ability to add more M.2 drives in the future even if that might mean having to go down to x1 PCIe 3.0.

But what I really like with the DAN A4 and similar is that they are able to use the ribbon connector to totally separate the CPU and GPU area. Obviously the signalling required for PCIe 4.0 onwards makes those ribbon connectors expensive, but the other obvious thing is that folding a PCIe slot backwards like only works if the slot is at the edge of the board. That is a single slot ITX board. Would be nice to be able to do this kind of thing with mATX.

Guess standards are out in favour of fruit imitation propreitary stuff with no expansion and patended rounded corners, but it really would be nice if a successor to mATX or even all of ATX had the option to have one PCIe slot behind the board. The motherboard would become the separator in the case (there's no reason a board couldn't slide into grooves) with the CPU, and PCIe expansion being on the "top" side and the GPU on the "bottom" side.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

23 litres! That is more than the combined volume of my NCase M1 and Velka 5. The Velka 5 is under 6 litres and can take a full sized dGPU and an SFX PSU.

well some people want a functional machine other what the best of the best and then don't even use it...

same with phones that some change every year.. whats the point?

as for amd pricing we will see whats going to happened. I am hoping that they have some aces up their sleeve still and that 3dcache is actually good.
i also hate cpu with pins.. so i am happy they are going LGA

The problem is a lot of these people seem to have no clue about the actual worth of these products. No wonder so many are in problems,etc if they are paying well over RRP for so many things!

[kompukare]

23 litres! That is more than the combined volume of my NCase M1 and Velka 5. The Velka 5 is under 6 litres and can take a full sized dGPU and an SFX PSU.

Yes, but don't think of it as 23 litres.

Think of it like this:
Consider the NR200. Note it is 20 litres and limits users to ITX. Plus ATX PSUs require an optimal adapter (although I suspect cable ties could work too).
See the Inter Tech IM-1 Pocket, Sama IM01, Tecware Fusion of whatever other alias it may have, and think "for only 3 litres more" I could fit an mATX board.

[Spreadie]

Nothing wrong with small cases - I have a 4 litre ZS-A4DC and my 12 litre M1 but the 18 litres of my NR200 only really amounts to about an inch in each dimension over the M1; and the 22 litres of the Tecware/SAMA/Inter-Tech only comes at a cost of approx a half inch in length and height over the NR200.

I love my M1 but, if this case was available a few years back, I would've never bought into ITX. The tax is beyond a joke these days.

If some folk want to get snobby about it not being SFF because it's more than 20 litres, that's fine by me.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Yes, but don't think of it as 23 litres.

Think of it like this:
Consider the NR200. Note it is 20 litres and limits users to ITX. Plus ATX PSUs require an optimal adapter (although I suspect cable ties could work too).
See the Inter Tech IM-1 Pocket, Sama IM01, Tecware Fusion of whatever other alias it may have, and think "for only 3 litres more" I could fit an mATX board.

For an mATX case its definitely small! But the Velka 5 makes my NCase M1 look way too big. The thing is also I mucked around with some standoff,etc so can probably use a larger CPU cooler in it.

Nothing wrong with small cases - I have a 4 litre ZS-A4DC and my 12 litre M1 but the 18 litres of my NR200 only really amounts to about an inch in each dimension over the M1; and the 22 litres of the Tecware/SAMA/Inter-Tech only comes at a cost of approx a half inch in length and height.

I love my M1 but, if this case was available a few years back, I would've never bought into ITX. The tax is beyond a joke these days.

If some folk want to get snobby about it not being SFF because it's more than 20 litres, that's fine by me.

I had a Riotoro 20L case mini-ITX,and I just found it too big. The NCase M1 is about the max I think I want to put up with - but I am one of those people who had Shuttle XPC back in the day and even shoehorned a dual slot card into one of them,but cutting off the side!

But I agree the RRP is way too high,especially as its made by Lian Li. I wanted to get a ZZAW B6 because it avoid the use of a riser like the M1,but I would have needed to import it from China so couldn't be bothered.

Luckily I got this secondhand NCase M1 for under £50 so that will do.

The Velka 5 I wanted because it can take a full SFX PSU,and quite a long GPU also. If you use a shorter GPU,you can actually install a few 2.5" drives at the bottom.

[ChaosUK]

itx is all about efficient use of space.. but i don't think it it always matters that much..
you either go for something that small that its easy to transport in a backback etc... or you just build a small pc because limited deskspace or trying to get wife approval
I have my main rig in O11Dynamic but my media pc in the living room is in nr200p. I had nzxt h1 and metallicgear neo g-mini... I also build my daughters pc in fractal node 202..
Not many people need a fulltower...

[Rob_B]

Original tweet:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Zed__Wang...35718231052290

AMD will release 4 new CPUs this month:
R5-5500 6C6T
R5-5600 6C12T
R7-5700X 8C16T
R7-5800X3D 8C16T

https://www.club386.com/amd-plans-ry...r-lake-threat/

Budget Ryzen 3 parts based on the Zen 3 architecture are still nowhere to be seen, but the rumoured Ryzen 5s do hold promise. According to the leak, Ryzen 5 5500 will go head-to-head with the $122 Core i3-12100, while the SMT-enabled Ryzen 5 5600 will attempt to undercut the impressive $192 Core i5-12400.

So a non-X 5600? Just slightly lower clocks maybe? How does the 12400 already compare to the 5600X though, doesn't it already beat the 5600X?

[DanceswithUnix]

So a non-X 5600? Just slightly lower clocks maybe? How does the 12400 already compare to the 5600X though, doesn't it already beat the 5600X?

They trade blows in gaming, the Intel chip seems overall better in getting actual work done. So perhaps AMD are pitching the 5700X against that chip which with two more cores would be pretty decisive. Will have to watch for pricing.