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    Addiction in Gaming - Discuss

    In reference to the previous questionnaire about addiction and gamers, and the suggestion in that thread that we have a discussion about it, here is my reply to the questionnaire to set it off.

    1. What is your age bracket:
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    16 – 18
    19 – 21
    21 – 25
    25+


    25+ (i'm 31)



    2. What is your definition of addiction in general?


    An inability to stop or give up an activity or substance based on a psychological need for it.


    3. How many hours a week on average do you play computer/video games?


    1-10
    11-20
    21-30
    31-40
    41+


    Between 25 and 35 hours a week, usually about 3-4 hours a night and longer at the weekends


    4. Do you feel you play too much?

    On occasion yes, and certainly in the past I have, but with any activity or substance, a measure of self control is needed.


    5. What elements of a gaming do you think could make it addictive?

    The challenge, the satisfaction of goals completed, storylines, even adrenaline rushes in some respects.


    6. Do you think genre could have any effect on how addictive a game is?

    Not so much, there is a wide variety of gamers and genres out there, and each has its own hardcore fans. I know people that still play Everquest nearly 9 years on, and I know people that still load up Quake II and Diablo for a game. People have died playing Starcraft and if the games charts have anything to go by, half the country plays *shudder* The Sims


    7. Could a games’ popularity effect its “addictiveness”?

    If a social circle is involved, then definitely. I played Everquest for a long time after the actual gameplay enjoyment had gone out of it, simply because of the friends I had made in the game, that needed my help


    8. In your opinion, what are the three most addicting games and why?


    Everquest, World of Warcraft and probably Elite

    Mainly because i have played each of these games for years on end, these however are personal choices, obviously the gaming community as a whole feels different as FPS games and RTS types have a huge following in different countries and have been known to cause illness,exhaustion and as mentioned before, in extreme cases, death. (Obviously the games involved were not the only factor).

    9. Do you think any addiction can be treated?

    Yes, but the varying forms of addiction should define the treatment. Someone who has social/marital/employment difficulties due to an addiction may not necessarily need to completely cut out the addiction, but instead needs to be moderated in some fashion, whereas someone with health problems may well need a complete abstinence program.


    10. In your opinion, are there social problems created by excessive game playing?


    Yes, lack of literacy, inability to express and define oneself in company, acceptable behaviour in social settings are all problems associated with addictions of any kind, whether it be drugs, alcohol, gambling etc etc. This is especially true if allowed to develop in children of an early age as social skills are obviously developed as we grow.


    Comments : Addiction is a serious problem in all walks of life, From movie stars to the homeless. There are varying forms but the one that affects most of the people on this board personally (ok, big assumption here, but i'm pretty sure i'm on the mark) would be gaming addiction.

    Do I suffer from it - Yes, to a lesser degree now than i used to. I have in the past put jobs in jeopardy, definitely lost relationships to it, and probably alienated some friends in the past.

    Am I cured now - probably not, but I game on my own time now, I dont sit (that often) to 4am when i have work the next day, I do go out socially (generally once a week) and I spend the weekends having dinner with my family (mother, gran, aunt, cousins). I also make a point of having dinner with my mother at a restaurant at least once a month (My gran is rather ill and my mother spends a great deal of her time looking after her, this night out gives some stress relief).

    The reason I brought this up for discussion rather than leave it to a personal questionnaire is because I reckon other people will have similar issues and therefore, other solutions to the *addiction*.

    Hexus social meets are a great thing incidentally, meeting people with the same interests and being able to discuss them round a table with a pint in hand is incredibly enjoyable, something i can only do with one or two of my present social circle who are more interested in football (i can wing it, but only just), cars (i can drive, but all my car info comes from Top Gear). It can be rather awkward when trying to explain the pure elation when 40+ people all worked together to take down Trakanon or Vulak in Everquest while at a busy pub

    Saying that, each to their own, i wasn't allowed to sit indoors as a child playing on the Speccy all day, i wasnt allocated specific times or anything, but if it was sunny out, i was out. I didnt learn my English from chatrooms and I still hate the majority of text abbreviations and incorrect language.

    So, while I agree that there is definitely a level of addiction involved in gaming, I do think that its far more easily dealt with than a drug or alcohol abuse problem, some fresh air, organised event (whether its family or sports or outdoor or whatever) that you are interested in, social gathering with like minded people, rather than sitting in a room day after day logged in and burning out.

    Anyways..... Discuss


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    I've managed to balance social life and gaming now, but there has been times where gaming has totally taken over. Times I've lied to family about being ill, rather than go out for a meal with them, just so I can carry on gaming, or times when I've barely spoken to my girlfriend for long periods because I've been so immersed in it.

    I agree it can be very addictive. As long as it doesn't harm others around you and doesn't turn you into a hermit there's far worse things people get addicted to though.

    I dread to think how bad I would have been if some of the games that are out now were about when I was a teenager, I'd probably never have left my room.

    Thankfully I've grown up and have struck a good balance between my favourite past-time and 'real' life.

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    I would definitely put my me droppingo ut of my final year of uni down to a degree of addiction to gaming, in particular, online gaming.

    I really got into Star Wars Galaxies during my final (and most important/difficult) year. It's no coincidence that I didn't study enough or attend enough lectures to pass my exams.

    Football Manager (formerly Championship Manager) was also a really addictive game that I struggled not to play.

    I suppose, as with any sort of addiction, will-power is key. There's no chemical addiction like drugs, drink, fags, but if you don't have the will-power to say "that's enough, get one with the studying" or "spend time with the missus/family", then you can get really sucked in.

    If even taken sick days so I can get some quality gaming time in, or to make up for evenings/weekends when I've had other things on which have taken away gaming time.

    As with Steven above, I think I've grown out of being too addicted to games and now live with my girlfriend. Got plenty of "chores" to keep my mind off it. My advice is to treat gaming as a treat, for when you've finished other tasks like: the dishes, studying, cutting the grass, etc.

    Nothing worse than getting into a gaming session and being interrupted my the missus nagging!

    I think if you're dream is to win the lottery, so that you can spend your days gaming (like me) you've a bit of a problem!
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    i wonder how many other people posted the same games as me as "most addictive"

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    1. What is your age bracket: 16 – 18

    2. What is your definition of addiction in general? Something that keeps you coming back for more to an extent that you can't stop yourself from going back to the practice.

    3. How many hours a week on average do you play computer/video games? 31-40

    4. Do you feel you play too much? In short yes, but at the moment I have a lot of spare time and do plenty of other activites. I still get sufficient excercise and social interaction.

    5. What elements of a gaming do you think could make it addictive? The amount of immersion we're so used to now with virtual, interacive worlds we get to play in. Online play is a huge factor too.

    6. Do you think genre could have any effect on how addictive a game is? Some people prefer certain genres so that will obviously affect the likelihood of addiction on an individual basis. I think on a wide scale, however, that sandbox games like GTA and the like give the player so much to do that it can be very addictive. Most of all I think online play is the main factor of addiction these days, on XBOX Live or the PC's online equivelant I find the hours go flying by when playing over the internet!

    7. Could a games’ popularity effect its “addictiveness”?
    Well if it's popular and features online play than it certainly is a factor that may contribute to the amount of time people will play online, if there are many opponents/co-operative players. I think if the game has a lot of hype it won't affect how addictive it is, but will add to the amount of people who buy it, therefore creating more potential addicts.

    8. In your opinion, what are the three most addicting games and why? Test Drive Unlimited - As I like driving around aimlessly basically! Crackdown - When it was new I wouldn't stop playing it as it was something fresh, and was free-roam based too. Now I rarely play it though. GTA:3 - SA For the same reasons as Crackdown really, but the addiction lasted much longer as I felt there was a lot more to do in the GTA games.

    9. Do you think any addiction can be treated? Yes I do. Most of it could probably be done will little or no outside help, but for more severe cases professional counselling may be needed.

    10. In your opinion, are there social problems created by excessive game playing? Overall there can be minor problems such as desensitisation, however I think this is dependant on what games you play and it is the same with other forms of entertainment too.

    After playing quite a lot of violent titles, I found myself less shocked at violence in general. I so thing that such things are quite minor though, and won't be apparent to everyone who is subjected to the more violent games available.

    I do think that sometimes games can cause severe problems as there have been quite a lot of murders that have claimed to be the fault of video games. However, I believe people who feel motivated to commit homicide over somethign as trivial as a game have serious mental health problems and would possibly get the provocation to carry out such acts from other sources too.

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    try playing wow for over 2 years and not show some forms of addiction.........

    1. on holiday in switzerland, diving into internet cafes all the time to check on new patches, updates and news.

    2. wife threatening to leave if i dont cut back

    3. quit 2 weeks ago, only to go back last weekend.


    wow is worse than crack

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    Forgot my answers already, but key to it was my own definition of addiction as something that has negative aspects when you withdraw the object of addiction.

    Thus gaming is only an addiction when it's withdrawl has a negative affect on you.

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    21 – 25

    2. What is your definition of addiction in general?
    An action which you go out of your way to perform, regardless of negative factors

    3. How many hours a week on average do you play computer/video games?
    11-20

    4. Do you feel you play too much?
    Nope

    5. What elements of a gaming do you think could make it addictive?
    Risk/reward. Any game where you get a tangible sense of achievement - but are still challenged in the process - is one that is essentially "fun". An addictive game is one where that "fun" factor doesn't stop over time.

    6. Do you think genre could have any effect on how addictive a game is?
    Depends on the user. Some people will spend hours a week playing Solitaire, yet have no interest in a "real" game like an RPG.

    7. Could a games’ popularity effect its “addictiveness”?
    Not really. There's a correlation (e.g. WoW) but no causation

    8. In your opinion, what are the three most addicting games and why?
    Solitaire, Freecell, Minesweeper.
    Total number of players is probably higher than anything else, and consider how many years the same people have played the same games

    9. Do you think any addiction can be treated?
    Usually. But a degree of willpower is needed too, and that's what most people lack.

    10. In your opinion, are there social problems created by excessive game playing?
    Yes, as with any "excess". But the effects of spending too much time in front of a TV are less than those of spending too much time with a needle jabbed into your arm, pumping carcinogens into your lungs, or vomiting up last night's bottle of scotch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyboy83 View Post
    I would definitely put my me droppingo ut of my final year of uni down to a degree of addiction to gaming, in particular, online gaming.

    If even taken sick days so I can get some quality gaming time in, or to make up for evenings/weekends when I've had other things on which have taken away gaming time.

    As with Steven above, I think I've grown out of being too addicted to games and now live with my girlfriend. Got plenty of "chores" to keep my mind off it. My advice is to treat gaming as a treat, for when you've finished other tasks like: the dishes, studying, cutting the grass, etc.

    Nothing worse than getting into a gaming session and being interrupted my the missus nagging!

    I think if you're dream is to win the lottery, so that you can spend your days gaming (like me) you've a bit of a problem!
    Yeah I've got that problem now, I'm in my first year of engineering (moved from physics, had like a 70% average but really didn't enjoy the second semester at all) and computer gaming is probably one of the reasons why I'm failing this year (plus the fact the course is a lot harder, and I seem to have grown stupider and more tired). But TBH, I can go through weeks where I game very little, if at all, since I'm a bit bored of my games. Then there are times (like new releases) where I can game almost non-stop for a couple of days. It's obviously not just gaming, I'm also a lazy git, but in the times I've not been gaming I have been kind of on a gaming low, bored, wanting to play games, but bored of the games I do have.

    TBH I think I just need a break, I think being taught for the majority of my life has drained my enthusiasm for learning, I do really enjoy learning (or did) and the stuff I do in engineering is right up my street. I think it's also reflected on my gaming, before, there was nothing I loved more than a really complicated game I could get my teeth into, learn the mechanics of how the battle system or whatever works so I could make my characters as effective as possible. But now, I'm going for much simpler games, and can't be bothered with games that are overly complicated.

    Unfortunately, I don't really have the possibility of a break, if I do, I'll have to pay the top-up fee rates (my parents will at least, which I'm gonna do my best to pay them back later).

    But anyway, I'll stop before I get into a full blown rant

    I agree with you about the nagging, there was nothing worse than trying to play WoW with your missus ringing you up every 5 minutes

    Theres also nothing I'd love more than winning the lottery


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    Quote Originally Posted by Veles View Post
    Then there are times (like new releases) where I can game almost non-stop for a couple of days.
    I'm exactly the same at the moment, completed Stalker in about 4 days and haven't been near it since. I think it's like you say, a need for more stimulation than we can find from any game at the moment. Although when you do find the game that "hits the spot", it feels damn good!

    On the topic of addiction, what does everyone think with regard to children playing these games? If adults find things like WOW and CS addictive, what effect do you think that has on a young teenager?

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    No different to be honest, save they might not have the wisdom to spot the addiction coming on. I don't think they're any more or less likely to be addicted though.

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    I often get family knocking on my door at 3pm in the morning reminding me I am at work in the Morning (ov course I didnt realise the time)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven W View Post
    I've managed to balance social life and gaming now, but there has been times where gaming has totally taken over. Times I've lied to family about being ill, rather than go out for a meal with them, just so I can carry on gaming, or times when I've barely spoken to my girlfriend for long periods because I've been so immersed in it.

    I agree it can be very addictive. As long as it doesn't harm others around you and doesn't turn you into a hermit there's far worse things people get addicted to though.

    I dread to think how bad I would have been if some of the games that are out now were about when I was a teenager, I'd probably never have left my room.

    Thankfully I've grown up and have struck a good balance between my favourite past-time and 'real' life.
    what game was it you where playing something like wow, icant really imagine bf2 becoming that addictive.

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    WOW worse than crack?!

    I'm afraid to buy the game!! Or any MMO game in case I waste the next 2 years playing!

    I'm bad enough as it is...
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    1. What is your age bracket:
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    21 – 25
    25+


    25+ (i'm 56)



    2. What is your definition of addiction in general?

    I usually fall over then realise I really should go to work.


    3. How many hours a week on average do you play computer/video games?


    1-10
    11-20
    21-30
    31-40
    41+

    As many as I can get away with, but far too many, tbh


    4. Do you feel you play too much?

    No, not at all. If I'm enjoying myself, then nothing else matters.


    5. What elements of a gaming do you think could make it addictive?

    Brains flying from exit wounds, any cute character getting totalled.


    6. Do you think genre could have any effect on how addictive a game is?

    Yes, fps roolz.

    7. Could a games’ popularity effect its “addictiveness”?

    Who gives a toss? If it's good, it's good, let's play

    8. In your opinion, what are the three most addicting games and why?

    CoD 1 - Cos I'm really good at it

    CoD 2 - Cos I'm not too bad at it, though not as good as CoD 1

    F.E.A.R - dunno why, just kinda like it, especially the way you die.

    9. Do you think any addiction can be treated?

    Of course - handcuffs, mallet, wooden block, severe bondage, usually works.

    10. In your opinion, are there social problems created by excessive game playing?

    No. Anybody criticising can go take a flying one.

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