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    Advice about ES4: Oblivion and it's expansions.

    Hi all. I bought this game when it was new a few years ago. I played it and completed it fairly quick. I loved it to bits for the first few days, then I started getting a feeling like I'm wasting my time doing these virtual errands, so I just switched to focussing on the main quest, then I blasted through the rest of the game in a week, and when the main quest was over, there was nothing really left for me. Nothing I could do would have any real impact, so all that was really left was the hundreds of side quests that I couldn't be bothered doing. Overall it was pretty disappointing for me. The combat was terrible imo, (hack hack hack block or fireball! fireball! fireball! fireball! fireball! fireball!)

    Anyway, it's been a few years now, and I was thinking of playing it again, and I need advice about expansions. I installed it and ran around for 20 minutes and then stopped playing when I realised all I had was the main quest, warrior and mage quests, and I've already done all that and can't be arsed doing them again. So... my questions:

    1) If I got Knights of the Nine, and Shimmering Isle, would it make the game seem new and give me plenty of new stuff to do?
    2) Seeing as I dont have my old savegames, would I be able to start a new game with a new character and go on a NEW adventure with the expansions content? Or would I have to start with the original main quest / warrior guild quest etc.. too? Or can I skip that?
    3) I usually like to play as a pure mage, but in Oblivion it was crap. I started really puny with just a few spells and they were really weak which made some parts of the game really hard. And then I ended up very powerful later in the game, with custom made nukes that blasted everything on the screen to pieces. It was boring because you only need 1 nuke that you just spam over and over.. I really wanted to have to root a mob in place, then debuff it, then DoT it, then charm another mob that's attacking me, and then lifetap back some health etc... Kind of a full on thing where you are constantly casting different spells - like when I used to group in EQ as a chanter or necro etc. ---- Sooo.. is there a way to build a mage with more spells and more involving spell combat? Perhaps I could install a mod and/or crank up the difficulty? Do the expansions change any of that?
    4) If mages are beyond help, would a rogue be fun? If so, is stealthing around then backstabbing people to death with a dagger not a bit simplistic and repetitive after a while? Or is there some challenge and fun in it that I need to see for myself?

    Thanks

    I just would love to be able to resurrect the game with the expansions, but if they dont really change it much from the original, I won't bother, and I'll just buy something else instead.

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    Re: Advice about ES4: Oblivion and it's expansions.

    i just bought oblivion game of the year edition but it seems to hate my computer, you know the first bit when you protect the king person? was about to kill an assassin and freeze >.<, every game works(even crysis) except for this one for some reason.

    I played it on 360 and since i was really far on that(sold 360) couldnt be bothered to play this again.

    I bought witcher for &#163;20 at the same time and i have too say that game is much better then oblivion (imo) and well worth it. Combat is good, storyline, graphics are pretty good for an rpg(except swords go threw swords on your character, 1 complaint). And ive been playing it for ages xD, great character building and loads of quests todo. Much less linear then oblivion as a choice can affect many many choices etc.

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    Re: Advice about ES4: Oblivion and it's expansions.

    Quote Originally Posted by acrobat View Post
    1) If I got Knights of the Nine, and Shimmering Isle, would it make the game seem new and give me plenty of new stuff to do?
    Lots of stuff to do.. but that by itself wouldn't make the game seem new because I'll bet you still have lots of stuff to do with the original as well. The improvement for both the knights of the nine DLC itself and shivering isles is that the quests are more involving than vanilla Ob. Also Shivering Isles brings a much more Morrowind feel to things which a lot of people preferred. It won't radically change the game though.
    2) Seeing as I dont have my old savegames, would I be able to start a new game with a new character and go on a NEW adventure with the expansions content? Or would I have to start with the original main quest / warrior guild quest etc.. too? Or can I skip that?
    All the expansions and DLCs are add-ins, not add-ons, so you can play them at any point. You might find SI a bit hard with a new character though.
    3) I usually like to play as a pure mage, but in Oblivion it was crap. I started really puny with just a few spells and they were really weak which made some parts of the game really hard. And then I ended up very powerful later in the game, with custom made nukes that blasted everything on the screen to pieces. It was boring because you only need 1 nuke that you just spam over and over.. I really wanted to have to root a mob in place, then debuff it, then DoT it, then charm another mob that's attacking me, and then lifetap back some health etc... Kind of a full on thing where you are constantly casting different spells - like when I used to group in EQ as a chanter or necro etc. ---- Sooo.. is there a way to build a mage with more spells and more involving spell combat? Perhaps I could install a mod and/or crank up the difficulty? Do the expansions change any of that?
    Expansions don't change that significantly, bar giving a few more items and maybe types of spell. But I would recommend checking out mods as there are tons that completely change the difficulty and way the game works.
    4) If mages are beyond help, would a rogue be fun? If so, is stealthing around then backstabbing people to death with a dagger not a bit simplistic and repetitive after a while? Or is there some challenge and fun in it that I need to see for myself?
    Rogues in Ob are a lot more fun than they are in any of the previous ES games - you can thank Emilo of Thief fame for that. The dark brotherhood have by far the best quest line of the vanilla game as well.

    As Hicks mentioned, The Witcher is a fab RPG as well - though it's really different from oblivion. The Witcher is far more linear and has virtually no character building compared to Ob, but if you don't mind the lack of freedom the detail and story are quite a bit better.

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    Re: Advice about ES4: Oblivion and it's expansions.

    I enjoyed playing oblivion with a rounded character that used heavy armour and bladed weapons (swords) as well as healing/buffing magic. I think the game does favour that. The knights of the nine and shivering isles do add alot of new things to do, but then I found exploring the wold fun and finding the litttle villages and helping the people by doing the quests there.
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    Re: Advice about ES4: Oblivion and it's expansions.

    Try some mods! I started a new yesterday with some mods, and although I don't have that much play time there are defintely noticable changes.

    Here are some of the "recommended mods" lists I used. There are so many out there to trawl through, so these really help narrow it down:

    Oblivion:Recommended Mods - UESPWiki
    bg&#39;s list of base mods - Bethesda Game Studios Forums


    If you want to play a mage, there are also magic overhaul mods you can use which make big changes to the magic systtem, see here:

    Magic Overhaul Comparison - Bethesda Game Studios Forums

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    Re: Advice about ES4: Oblivion and it's expansions.

    Wow thanks!

    I think I'll give it another play though. I'll get the expansions, and I'll start playing again and do the dark brotherhood quest line because I never did that before.

    And I may do some other side quests to help build up my character a bit, and then I'll head for the Shimmering Isle and check out the Knights of the Nine stuff too.

    I'll have a good look at all those mods too. Hopefully I can find one that will tweak it to my liking

    Thanks everyone!

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    Re: Advice about ES4: Oblivion and it's expansions.

    I was in the same boat as you, but the other day decided to give it another bash. Installed vanilla and the expansion, then all the DLC, then had a look around for mods.

    The best ones I've used so far are Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul and Francescos Mod. Also use the BTmod to change the menus and add a colour map. I can't remember the name of the mod now but there is one that changes the combat so you can do all sorts of moves, break weapons, chop peoples heads off, do backflips and fight from horses, and that was pretty good!


    But yes, mods plus the expansions can completely change the game for the better, especially the 'levelling issue'. Hope that helps
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    Re: Advice about ES4: Oblivion and it's expansions.

    One other thing no-one's mentioned, while the side quests can be a bit dull the guild quests are quite fun. Especially, as mentioned above, the assassins guild
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    Re: Advice about ES4: Oblivion and it's expansions.

    Try a thief/ assassing, lots of fun. Especially if you have illusion magic, you can make yourself invisible and you can charm the guards. Charming the guards is amusing if you have bounty on your head they say something like "Looks like you've got yourself in a bit of bother but since we're friends.." basically clears your bounty for free

    If you go for a thief or an assassin try the attack and hide mod and/or the no psychic guards mod


    Also the witcher is very good and is very time consuming (60-80 hours) but not as tiem consuming as oblivion which is something like 300 hours play I believe? gives you an idea how much is left to do.

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    Re: Advice about ES4: Oblivion and it's expansions.

    Download Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul - makes the game soo much more fun! Another vote for that. Also, google FCOM convergence, it meshes a few of the mods together.

    Or scout around on the elder scrolls forums in the oblivion mods section and try some of the works in progress.

    NOTE: Be wary if you're trying OOO though, it makes the game a LOT more difficult at lower levels without changing the difficulty slider. For instance, unless you're feeling very daring, Vilverin - the dungeon that you see after doing the tutorial (effectively the first one most people visit) is basically off limits for a while. The only problem i had was feeling crap at everything until about level 5 ish since everything - and i mean everything - has a decent chance of mauling you. But, the upshot is a much more refreshing game experience and the extra loot more than makes up for the difficulty!

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