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    Question Crysis bit the dust?

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    I just got sent a Hexus review of the 4870 Toxic 512MB:

    http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=15817

    ...and I notice that Crysis is not doing some of the pixel pounding in the tests.

    As this is an upgraded card, it cannot have toppled Crysis? Are the games mentioned more power-hungry than the aforementioned?
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    Re: Crysis bit the dust?

    Benchmarks are meant to be representative of performance, not isolated cases - otherwise they would have to test every game out there. Crysis performance isn't representative so has been dropped in favour of more useful tests.

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    Re: Crysis bit the dust?

    There was word that Crysis would be scrapped in the benchmark section in a previous review because it didn't scale well with any hardware at all so didn't provide any valuable information to users except for those that are buying a card to play Crysis

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    Re: Crysis bit the dust?

    I have to disagree: Crysis has been/is representative in the respect that the cards tested cannot achieve the level of performance to run it at max, and therefore, it can be clearly seen that the latest cards are not improving by any significant amount, or, that any particular card under review is not actually improving at all. The "industry" would obviously not be pleased with these point of view as they want to portray a view of constant, significant improvement:

    This constant portrayal is obviously one of hype, with such minor incremental improvements that are indistinguishable to the actual user. In 5 years time, the latest cards will still be struggling to run Crysis: That will show quite clearly that there has been no real improvement in many cases.

    I still think Crysis is a good reality mark.
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    Re: Crysis bit the dust?

    Quote Originally Posted by edjay View Post
    I have to disagree: Crysis has been/is representative in the respect that the cards tested cannot achieve the level of performance to run it at max, and therefore, it can be clearly seen that the latest cards are not improving by any significant amount, or, that any particular card under review is not actually improving at all.
    Or perhaps the crysis engine is crap.

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    Re: Crysis bit the dust?

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Or perhaps the crysis engine is crap.
    That would be the first time I have heard such a thing: Could that be that crysis is just another game that has been hyped out of orbit as well?
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    Re: Crysis bit the dust?

    Quote Originally Posted by moogle View Post
    There was word that Crysis would be scrapped in the benchmark section in a previous review because it didn't scale well with any hardware at all so didn't provide any valuable information to users except for those that are buying a card to play Crysis
    So this leaves people in a position of buying a card for a particular game? Ok, this subject is out of my depth. See you later.
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    Re: Crysis bit the dust?

    Quote Originally Posted by edjay View Post
    In 5 years time, the latest cards will still be struggling to run Crysis: That will show quite clearly that there has been no real improvement in many cases.

    I still think Crysis is a good reality mark.

    So thats why my friend can run the game and expansion fine with his HD4870X2 then is it? Crysis is really only a test for the really high end cards imo, and doesnt scale down well at all imo.

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    Re: Crysis bit the dust?

    Quote Originally Posted by edjay View Post
    So this leaves people in a position of buying a card for a particular game? Ok, this subject is out of my depth. See you later.
    Yeah sorta, maybe hexus thought that it would represent the cards power wrongly as in if one does better than the rest in Crysis and not so good in the rest people would take the Crysis results with more value than the others.

    Could be that we're wrong and Crysis is real real far ahead of it's time. Other high end games seem to be scaling with the new hardware though although they aren't as graphically advanced like Crysis. I'd say in a year or two we will have a card that can play Crysis well (Hopefully, can't wait for new exciting architectures). I remember a year back all the cards were struggling to do Oblivion and that was the juggernaut of the game graphics section but now it's been tamed by the latest cards

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    Re: Crysis bit the dust?

    Quote Originally Posted by edjay View Post
    So this leaves people in a position of buying a card for a particular game?
    It would do if they used Crysis in a benchmark that attempts to quantify how good a card is.

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    Re: Crysis bit the dust?

    Quote Originally Posted by moogle View Post
    I remember a year back all the cards were struggling to do Oblivion and that was the juggernaut of the game graphics section but now it's been tamed by the latest cards
    Ummm, well now my X1900XTX ran Oblivion at 1920x1200 with only a couple of things turned down, basically it's full glory. That was not a year ago, more than two years ago. That same card runs Crysis at 1920x1200 on medium settings, which is very acceptable. I don't see what the fuss is about.

    The thing is that PC games are built to be scaleable and that scale can include PCs two years in the future. Looking back at Doom3, Quake 2, Quake, none of these games could be run at the highest resolutions and settings with high FPS by even the most powerful PCs available at the time of release. Remember that these game engines are planned years in advance and the hardware power they are designed for is a prediction of what will be avaliable when the game is finally finished an uncertain amount of years in the future and sometimes people hope for more. Also it helps if you can have an ultra graphics level even if it only runs at 1 fps for making those great screenshots for eveyone to drool over and make them want your game.
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    Re: Crysis bit the dust?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciber View Post
    Also it helps if you can have an ultra graphics level ...........
    That makes a reasonable explanation, thanks. One day I might actually try the game if I can find a second-hand copy. No time for the mo'
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