I am a self preclaimed PES fanboy and wouldnt ever buy fifa. This year tho i actually like fifa 09 and believe it has come on leaps and bounds from previous versions. I still bought PES 2009 on release which is normal for me and have to say that the game play is still better on PES, but this year i believe i will actually play both games. PES really needs the licences and upgrade on the actual look of in game menu's and more detail on players and clubs. I think next year I might just be tempted to buy Fifa for the 1st time since 1995. Or can PES really stop the rot and fork out some money for licenses???