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    Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena was recently released.

    2 years ago I had enjoyed playing "The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay" and had reached up to a pretty far point into the game, but didn't complete it due to time restrains at the time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=11437209

    I have the following queries:

    1. It seems that there is a "Remastered" version of butcher's bay included in the package, so it might be a good deal to purchase Athena and finally complete the prequel at the same time.
    How much of an improvement in the graphics department is this remastered version of Butcher's Bay by the way?

    2. I also noticed that there is a limitation on the number of times you can install the original game in you PC!
    What's this nonsense?! What if I format and re-install Windows after the 3rd time?
    If that's the case, what's the point of buying the original then?

    The PC version of the game comes with a similar type of DRM system as the earlier released Electronic Arts Game: Spore, with Atari citing 'combating early piracy' [11] as the reason for its implementation. The DRM system is similar in that it limits user with three total installs during the entire lifetime of the game and would require connection with an online server to verify the install.
    3. What are the system requirements for Dark Athena?
    How well would it play on my rig on highest settings @ 1280x1024?
    Intel C2D E6600 @ 2.4GHZ
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    Thanks in advance
    Last edited by retroborg; 21-04-2009 at 12:55 PM.

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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    Just to point out you never actually own a game, you are simply buying the right to use it, this right can normally be revoked at any time by the publisher or maker. The latest form of DRM is just adding to this, same as spore it only allows 3 installs.

    Although lately EA has backed down releasing a tool to de-authorize machines allowing you to install it more times plus they have took most the DRM off sims 3, Atari on the other hand have no such plans as of yet.

    Its a shame really as apparently the game is quite good, if i do decide to get it, it will be on PS3. Just look at the reviews for the PC version.

    http://www.amazon.com/Chronicles-Rid...0325221&sr=8-2

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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    A quick search and you'd of found.., http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-gaming...rk-athena.html
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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasp View Post
    Just to point out you never actually own a game, you are simply buying the right to use it, this right can normally be revoked at any time by the publisher or maker. The latest form of DRM is just adding to this, same as spore it only allows 3 installs.

    Although lately EA has backed down releasing a tool to de-authorize machines allowing you to install it more times plus they have took most the DRM off sims 3, Atari on the other hand have no such plans as of yet.

    Its a shame really as apparently the game is quite good, if i do decide to get it, it will be on PS3. Just look at the reviews for the PC version.

    http://www.amazon.com/Chronicles-Rid...0325221&sr=8-2

    Going into all this trouble just to activate/reactivate a silly game?!

    It looks like they wont be getting my hard earned money for their 3 try license then.

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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    Quote Originally Posted by retroborg View Post
    The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena was recently released.

    2 years ago I had enjoyed playing "The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay" and had reached up to a pretty far point into the game, but didn't complete it due to time restrains at the time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=11437209

    I have the following queries:

    1. It seems that there is a "Remastered" version of butcher's bay included in the package, so it might be a good deal to purchase Athena and finally complete the prequel at the same time.
    How much of an improvement in the graphics department is this remastered version of Butcher's Bay by the way?

    2. I also noticed that there is a limitation on the number of times you can install the original game in you PC!
    What's this nonsense?! What if I format and re-install Windows after the 3rd time?
    If that's the case, what's the point of buying the original then?



    3. What are the system requirements for Dark Athena?
    How well would it play on my rig on highest settings @ 1280x1024?
    Intel C2D E6600 @ 2.4GHZ
    2GB 800MHZ
    GeForce 8800GT 512MB
    WinXP Pro

    Thanks in advance
    A total waste of time as usual. A case of the industry punishing its genuine buyers again.

    It seems this is not the only game by Atari that has the new DRM, however they will continue doing it, until enough genuine customers complain about it. Once people accept it and cough up the cash for one game it will be rolled out on all the other Atari games.
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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Yosh View Post
    A total waste of time as usual. A case of the industry punishing its genuine buyers again.

    It seems this is not the only game by Atari that has the new DRM, however they will continue doing it, until enough genuine customers complain about it. Once people accept it and cough up the cash for one game it will be rolled out on all the other Atari games.
    If modern games where excellent enough that could justify such measures, then some people might accept this nonsense.
    But I usually get more fun playing Axelay, Terranigma, Ninja Warriors Again, on my good old SNES than on the modern crap released now adays...
    It looks like they wont be getting my hard earned money for their 3 try license then.
    Last edited by retroborg; 23-04-2009 at 07:20 PM.

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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    lol at amazon reviews 11 negative 1 positive and its not even release yet
    http://http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chron...0510081&sr=1-3

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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    Your system will definately be able to play the game easilly on that size monitor.

    Atari have said that you can phone their support number and get your licenses back if you go over the limit. You can also do the same by emailing their technical support team using this form: http://www.uk.atari.com/index.php?pg=form

    The limit of 3 licenses is abit crazy but its been the same with all software for a very long time...

    Since when was anyone able to buy a retail version of MS Office and have unlimted licenses?
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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    Quote Originally Posted by smithy1158 View Post
    Your system will definately be able to play the game easilly on that size monitor.

    Atari have said that you can phone their support number and get your licenses back if you go over the limit. You can also do the same by emailing their technical support team using this form: http://www.uk.atari.com/index.php?pg=form

    The limit of 3 licenses is abit crazy but its been the same with all software for a very long time...

    Since when was anyone able to buy a retail version of MS Office and have unlimted licenses?
    That is not true, you can install 1 license of Office Retail, unlimited amount of times on the same pc.

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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    Quote Originally Posted by retroborg View Post
    That is not true, you can install 1 license of Office Retail, unlimited amount of times on the same pc.
    You can install Riddick an unlimited number of times on the same PC too.

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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    ... Unless you alter the PC's config too many times, but of course you can ask Atari to let you install it again should you do so. Seems more than reasonable to me.
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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    You can install Riddick an unlimited number of times on the same PC too.
    At least you don't have to phone M$ to allow you to do it or re-activate it.

    A bunch of big-name games have had something like this. They've tried to weasel their way out of the nastiness of it by increasing the install limit and/or allowing you to get a "refund" by properly uninstalling, but that's just delaying the inevitable. It floors me that people with the power to mandate this kind of stuff are so detached from reality; both the reality that their customers hate it and the reality that the warez crowd doesn't give a damn because it'll be cracked anyway (probably before it even hits stores

    Besides, I really doubt Atari, the servers or the helpline will be functional during the game's lifetime. They have the mentality of "play the game when it's new, hype and profitable".
    People who play old games after it is no longer supported do not matter to them.
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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    ... There's a nice thread on the Atari forums, one guy lost his three activations following a motherboard disaster on his sons computer. The Atari phone numbers (US) were not available, no-one answered his emails and in the end the resolution had to come via a board mod and not directly from Atari themselves. I'll dig up the link.
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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    Quote Originally Posted by retroborg View Post
    At least you don't have to phone M$ to allow you to do it or re-activate it.
    Yes you do - I've had to just because my onboard network card was a bit flaky.

    It floors me that people with the power to mandate this kind of stuff are so detached from reality; both the reality that their customers hate it and the reality that the warez crowd doesn't give a damn because it'll be cracked anyway
    It floors me that armchair punters think they know business better than people who are at the top of the industry. If this kind of thing didn't make them money then they wouldn't use it. Fact of the matter is that Riddick wasn't cracked before or immediately after release. That's probably made it worthwhile already.

    People who play old games after it is no longer supported do not matter to them.
    Then why did they say they'd remove the DRM later? Doesn't fit with your assertion.

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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Yes you do - I've had to just because my onboard network card was a bit flaky.
    Just because M$ one the world's lamest & monopolistic companies, follows this type of policy, doesn't mean it's justifiable in a game. Time will tell if people will support this. If they do, well they get what they deserve. It's not surprising that more people choose Linux based systems instead.

    It floors me that armchair punters think they know business better than people who are at the top of the industry. If this kind of thing didn't make them money then they wouldn't use it. Fact of the matter is that Riddick wasn't cracked before or immediately after release. That's probably made it worthwhile already..
    It wont take long. It will be cracked eventually.
    There will always be dumb people paying for their nonsense, albeit less as time passess.

    Then why did they say they'd remove the DRM later? Doesn't fit with your assertion.
    When did EA say they'll remove the DRM?!
    Their support seems to be almost nonexistent. I've heard of people that still haven't received any reply to their messages sent to their support several years ago!

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    Re: Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena install limit?!

    Quote Originally Posted by noTHINGface View Post
    ... There's a nice thread on the Atari forums, one guy lost his three activations following a motherboard disaster on his sons computer. The Atari phone numbers (US) were not available, no-one answered his emails and in the end the resolution had to come via a board mod and not directly from Atari themselves. I'll dig up the link.
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