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    There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    Now I've been a fan of the Colin McRae games since way back when, ripping down country lanes against the clock at breakneck speeds while constantly fearful of writing off your car has always been one of my favourite things for as long as I've been into racing games. Circuit racing's brilliant don't get me wrong, I've put hundreds of hours into Gran Turismo and when I was younger the TOCA series, F355 Challenge even stuff like Le Mans 24 Hour but there's something about rallying that just equals tension, you can't nudge the guy ahead and sneak past as he's busy wrestling his car off the barrier because he's not there, it's just you, the road and the clock.

    Understandably then the original DiRT was quite popular in my house, I wasn't a huge fan of the buggy racing and raid events as the handling never felt as polished as the rally cars and while having seven other cars on the track was fun it didn't feel like rallying as I know it, never the less though I enjoyed it hugely and when I heard about a sequel even though it smelled a little of cashing to get one more game out the license I was up for more of the same.

    Unfortunately this is where the disappointment starts because it's not more of the same, it's a very different animal...

    It's a good game mechanically, the handling's sweet even if it does feel a touch easier to hold the epic slides that were previously so rewarding and it's very very good looking. The actual rallying aspect of the game however feels like it's been downplayed for more Dakar style raid events, buggy races and rally-cross special races and even though that's what Colin was spending his time on later in his career it seems unfair to see the WRC style events that made him famous take a back seat. The presentation of the game doesn't feel very Colin McRae either, the interface, HUD and voice work all has a very EA Big© feel to it, more like an extreme sports title than a racing game. Every time you cross a finish line it's coupled with a salvo of fireworks from either side of the course, everything is "gnarly", drivers will call you to "throw down" in an fashion almost reminiscent of the Skate games and you can even decorate the dashoard of your car with skulls, hula girls fluffy dice and all manner of other useless ornaments, it all feels a bit too over the top, a bit too big and frankly a little bit too American for my liking.

    Your opponents don't feel like worthy adversaries either, Ken Block is without question a great driver, better than I will ever be but to me and I imagine many many others he's "that chap off YouTube and Top Gear" and the rest of the field doesn't seem much better as the only other names I recognise are Dave Mirra and Travis Pastrana who made their names in freestyle BMX and motorcross rather than rallying. Even the roster of cars available caters more to the "extreme" with very little in the way of recognisable WRC cars but plenty of Hummers and stranger choices like the BMW Z4M and the Nissan 350Z, there are no 1600's, no group B monsters, no Stratos, no Citroens, Skoda's and very few Fords either they're all gone, theres still a few Evo's and Impreza's about and even a mk2 Escort to keep the classic rally fans happy but it feels like too little too late in the end.

    As a swan song for Colin McRae then I feel like DiRT 2 has missed the mark and become too American as a whole, had it been called Ken Block goes to the X-Games it would have been reasonable to expect the "extreme" nature of everything but to put the game out with Colin McRae written above the title feels wrong and fails to do either McRae or the previous games in the series he contributed to justice in my opinion.

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    Re: There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    Well I think it's an awesome game.

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    Re: There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    Agreed, it's brilliant, it looks stunning, the car handling is spot on if a little easier than I recall and the tracks (even if I'm not a fan of buggy's/raid stuff) are all well designed and fun to play, all the ones I've raced on anyway. I probably shouldn't be putting it down as hard as I am but it's not a great Colin McRae game imo , it's something different. I suppose if it was "Ken Block's DiRT 2" I'd have far fewer issues with it but it just doesn't feel like the older Colin McRae games alot of the time and I think that's quite sad considering this will probably be the last thing with his name attached to it that we'll see.

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    Re: There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    Quote Originally Posted by Knoxville View Post
    The presentation of the game doesn't feel very Colin McRae either, the interface, HUD and voice work all has a very EA Big© feel to it
    That's interesting from Codemasters, while EA's latest driving game goes the other direction a bit

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    Re: There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    Thanks Knox, you've confirmed exactly what I was expecting.
    While I still long for the simplicity of CMR and a keyboard I'm really looking forward to seeing how it translates to the XBox.
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    Re: There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    in the bit tech review of the game they mentioned how its moved away from a sim to becoming more arcadey

    http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2009/...irt-2-review/4

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    Re: There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    Good review, he nails it in my opinion

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    Re: There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    I just cant wait for the F1 game their going to be producing !
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    Re: There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    So I headed over to my friends house who had just brought Dirt 2, 'Great' I thought some serious rallying.

    It all started so well, until the first hairpin and because i was using sticks i pressed the horn whilst braking to go round the corner only to hear a bloody ice cream van jingle and then the announcer says 'way to go fuzzynutz', i couldnt play cus i was rolling around laughing.

    Could not treat the game seriously from then on.

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    Re: There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    Essentially all they need for a Colin McRae game is to dig out CM2 and then release it with the modern tracks and the latest drivers and the like and you will have the rally game to beat. I still remember sinking hours in this game when the PS1 and CM1 landed then CM2 came out and you had the rally game to beat. It's a shame they are moving further away from the all out rallying.

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    Re: There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    Quote Originally Posted by gtech View Post
    It all started so well, until the first hairpin and because i was using sticks i pressed the horn whilst braking to go round the corner
    That's an unusual cornering technique..

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    Re: There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    V Rally 3 is still my all time favourite racing game..
    there was also a CM once upon a time that had a driving school on the PS1, i loved that too

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    Re: There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    Mobil 1 Rally Championship for me . I think that game featured one of the longest stages of any rallying game coming in at 40 miles or so . Let's get a modern version of that. As much as I'd like to agree with the OP, he did buy a game for a games console, 'nuff said imho .
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    Re: There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    Have to say I totally agree, and what dis-heartens me most is that if Colin McRae was still around I bet this game would have had more focus on rally realism rather than "gnarly" moves and racing against bloody BMX riders...

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    Re: There's something not quite right about DiRT 2...

    Glad I'm not the only one that thinks so, it seems like such as shame too because there's a good game in there it's just a bit over the top

    I have a little confession to make by the way, there are actually two group B mosters in the game that I didn't unlock until very recently, the Metro 6R4 and the Ford RS200, there's not many events to race them in by the time you get that far into the game but they are there

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