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    Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

    Hi guys has anyone else played the PS3 demo yet?

    i have and i love it. PES is back!

    Right i've had a day to mull over my thoughts on the demo. I played around 6, maybe 7 games last night, which is an achievement in itself given i could only stomach 1 or 2 consecutive games of PES10. Besides, it was late and me needing to go to sleep was the only reason i turned it off.

    Before i give a review it's best to give you a bit of background. I was given a taste of PES (or ISS as it was) probably around 10 or 11 years ago on the PS1. I was blown away by how simple yet satisfying it was compared to Fifa. I stuck with Konami all the way through the progression from ISS to PES right up until PES10, despite last enjoying the game in PES6.

    I crossed over to the dark side of Fifa when they released Fifa09, and i was reeled in by the very enjoyable demo. Being honest, i really enjoyed Fifa09, while i didn't really enjoy PES09. This lead to me buying Fifa10, which i pretty much hated, due to the broken MM, and the Ice Hockey like physics of the game - high speed, high aggression etc.

    So i bought PES10 on the PC and enjoyed some fantastic mods, and at times, i enjoyed playing the game. After a while it became stale so i decided to buy the Fifa WC game to play only on manual. I enjoyed that for a while, but EA seemed to be going down an even faster and more aggressive route which totally ruins the experience. Besdies, with the last few Fifa's the player movement has become very predictable, and whilst it was fun, it never really convinced me it was a football sim, which is what i've been longing for...

    Anyway, enough of the back story, here's my impressions on PES11 Demo.

    Graphics

    Stunning, in one word. Lighting is near perfect, shadows are great, textures are great, replays are amazing. I love the motion blur, although i have read that a few people hate it. Personal taste i guess.


    Passing

    Best bit of the game imo. Not really like manual on Fifa, and it is still possible to play ping pong football (granted, it is harder), but against the AI, if you decide to play that way, you obviously have no issue with it. Online it could be a problem but there are exploits and game ruiners in most games.

    Short passing is great, as is the manual pass modifier. Long passing feels great, and play switching is brilliant. Through balls have been great for me, when using x. When i use triangle, i struggled.

    I've noticed a few complaints about player movement, but for me it's been fine. Players react to through balls, even if they look dis-interested in making the run. I'd hate to have an L1 style forward run option like Fifa. Unrealistic imo.


    Shooting

    Controlled finishes feel nice. General shooting is more difficult especially when off balance as the ball feels lighter. It'll take some getting used to, but it seems to travel less straight and bullet like which is a good thing.


    Goalkeepers

    There had to be a negative, and here it is. They're an improvement on PES10, but that doesn't say much. The animations at times are frankly, terrible. Keepers shouldn't land on their front everytime they dive. It's odd, and ruins the feeling of scoring sometimes. They're less error prone, butit was the animations that bothered me and they haven't really been fixed.

    Defending

    Seems ok. That's all i can say at the minute. I'm keeping the ball well enough to not be attacked all that often. Seen no craziness so far, although i'm yet to feel fully in control of what i am doing


    Everything else

    Computer AI is good. Defensively they made errors at times, but attacking wise they offered variety. Through balls, long balls, crossing, good movement. Big step up from 10.

    At times i noticed the computer automatically taking over my defender to clear the ball, which is annoying.

    I noticed that -1 is the perfect match speed for me. Either way, there is something for everyone.

    Some link up animations are still missing but all in all, it's much better than 10.

    Player individuality kicks ass. Robben runs with the ball like Robben. Xavi and Iniesta turn sharply to keep the ball. Busquest kept playing easy and quick passes. Messi runs at you. It's all there and it's brilliant.

    Final Score

    9/10. I'd have given it a ten if the keeper animations were fixed. Oh and them darn nets.

    Quality game. Hats off to Seabass and co.
    Some videos:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7H7C...layer_embedded

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Ynu...layer_embedded

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    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

    I'm glad. Used to love PES, but been a FIFA man since 09.

    I'll hopefully try both and decide on the strength of the demos.
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    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

    Didn't know this was out, i'll have to give it a try

    Looks completely different from the youtube vids from previous versions of the game.

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    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

    Its a completely different engine thats why. the demo is only available for PSN+ users. next wednesday it will be available everywhere

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    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    Its a completely different engine thats why. the demo is only available for PSN+ users. next wednesday it will be available everywhere
    Next Wednesday then

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    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

    tried it because of what you said josh but not for me. Passing was hit and miss about 50% of the time it went were i wanted the rest of the time anywere, The offsides were most annoying about 5 times i was caught offside with 4 or more players which was annoying players very lazy staying onside. I think i will stick with fifa have tried pes a few times and i just cant get into it.


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    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by danroyle View Post
    tried it because of what you said josh but not for me. Passing was hit and miss about 50% of the time it went were i wanted the rest of the time anywere, The offsides were most annoying about 5 times i was caught offside with 4 or more players which was annoying players very lazy staying onside. I think i will stick with fifa have tried pes a few times and i just cant get into it.
    Passing is the best part of this game imo. sounds like your after an arcade not a sim. in that case stick with fifa as 100% of passes are always a success in that game played on assisted. hardly a reflection of the real game

    Anyways have you tried tinkering with the tactics? its very deep mate. lots of options to tinker with and you can easily avoid the offside trap.
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    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    Passing is the best part of this game imo. sounds like your after an arcade not a sim. in that case stick with fifa as 100% of passes are always a success in that game played on assisted. hardly a reflection of the real game

    Anyways have you tried tinkering with the tactics? its very deep mate. lots of options to tinker with and you can easily avoid the offside trap.
    i haven't tried yet i will try tinkering but it felt uncomfortable to play. will try it again though.


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    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by ..El Nino.. View Post
    shouldn't the pc version be out today?

    Also, what are your thoughts? major improvements etc etc? It needs to blow me away for me to regain the huge love i once had for the series.
    umm im in a rush to post so i will be swift and quick:

    * Graphics are amazing
    * Player animations as good as fifa
    * Passing is miles better then fifa(no more ping pong!)
    * shooting is better than fifa i.e. less floaty long shots than fifa
    * player physics are spot on
    * Pace of the gameplay is spot and can be set
    * Tactics/formats are nearly as deep as football manager games and no contest between fifa
    * Passing is excellent. opps did i mention that already? its the best part of the game imho. takes time to master and like i said, no ping pong bull****.
    * defensive AI is great! you need to really work the ball to even get an attempt on goal

    minuses:

    * hate the penalty view. it sucks and hard to score penalties
    * sound effects could be better and more real in terms of the ball kitting the cross bar and whenever the player kicks the ball but the stadium chants and sound are great.
    * Replays for every freaking free kick!

    Other then that. its a day 1 purchase for me on the pc due to huge mod community available for it. this is the return to form of PES. their is no ifs or buts.

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    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

    is the PC demo out?
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    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by format View Post
    is the PC demo out?
    yes

    could be demo link:

    im downloading it now but off to bed. will chekc it tomorrow morning

    http://dl.pes2011.konamionline.com/p...S2011_Demo.exe


    dont blame me if its a virus though as i aint checked it yet! links from evo web


    edit: its the real deal!


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    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

    im gunna post some screenshots later. that link above does work 100% as i just tried it now

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    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

    PC screenshots of PES11:











    EDIT: not sure what all those vertical lines come from because its certainly not their in the actual game played in motion.

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    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

    Not impressed with PC demo.

    The game stuttered badly all the way through, which it shouldn't be doing. My system is enough to run it comfortably. The demo won't let you change graphics settings either.

    THe gameplay itself was fine but the 10 minute clip you have to watch at the end of every game means this is getting uninstalled pronto. Really idiotic move on their part - they are pushing a game to me that I already want to buy. I could understand showing it the first time, but after every single game?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by format View Post
    Not impressed with PC demo.

    The game stuttered badly all the way through, which it shouldn't be doing. My system is enough to run it comfortably. The demo won't let you change graphics settings either.

    THe gameplay itself was fine but the 10 minute clip you have to watch at the end of every game means this is getting uninstalled pronto. Really idiotic move on their part - they are pushing a game to me that I already want to buy. I could understand showing it the first time, but after every single game?!
    you can disable that video in settings.exe mate. something along the lines of play video options or something like that.

    one thing i notice from my 480gtx is it wasnt running on full pelt playing this game. usualy when i play games i can hear the fan noise.

    im gunna check the gpu usage while playing it and see whats going on.

    try enabling frame skipping and vsync or disable them if that helps

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