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    Dark Souls - Possible Spoilers

    Surprised no one has actually started a thread on this one yet with Demons Souls becoming a sleeper hit on the PS3.

    So, bought it earlier this week, got the limited edition with digital mini guide, artbook, soundtrack CD, DVD all wrapped up in a nice outer carboard box. Been waiting on this game for so long now I had very high expectations of it.

    Now around 17 hours in progress has been very slow.

    Initially the thoughts in the Asylum starting area is that it is just like Demons Souls with the way it plays, combat it visceral, walking around to make sure you dont get ambushed and taken out. First demon that you come across is literally just a taster of what is to come.

    Once you leave the Asylum, everything changes. You still learn from your mistakes but the game does pull a few dirty tricks on you to kill you off. Another thing with this is that it is open world, so go forth adventuring but if you head into the wrong area then you have no chance of suceeding. A lot of the time you arnt overly sure where you are supposed to be heading.

    Enemies on this game are extremely tough, as you get stronger you learn what they are going to do so you will be able to get through initial areas blindfolded which can be handy for early grind to get souls to level up. Bosses on the other hand are just OTT, the battles are aimed at melee characters primarily. Guess this is what the developers wanted just so they could kill you off numerous times and send you back to the bonfire you last saved at.

    Previously on Demons Souls you could tackle the bosses any way you wanted, on this one though its a case of melee, you try to back off during a fight to use ranged then the boss will move on you fast or fire some sort of high powered projectile that is tough to dodge or block, or even have a weapon that has an extremely long reach that cant be blocked effectively. Its like a huge difficulty spike basically.

    I fought on with Demons Souls and managed to learn it, went through it twice to see both endings. This on the other hand has nearly been shelved a few times already. Thing is though it is a case of one more go at that boss or venture forth into a new area.

    Online side of things you have to be in human form (similar to Demons) to be able to summon blue phantoms (other players basically). Only minor drawback with this is the humanity system. You get humanity points off corpses, or killing so many enemies in a new area. You dont get it from killing a boss or tough enemy and you dont revive to human form. Thing is also, you die then die again trying to get back to your bloodstain you lose any humanity points you had aquired with no way of actually recouping them as you have received the points already for working away across the level. So being able to get back to being human to be able to summon someone else for a tough battle can be really awkward. Just seems that the online component is something that they havnt really done anything to spur it along with the way the humanity works. Another decent aspect of online is that you still get the messages you got in Demons that can warn you of a trap or enemy ahead, only minor downside to this is the same as Demons, people putting them in stupid places like right next to bonfires or at the bases of ladders. Inevitably you can end up clicking the message instead of the ladder or bonfire, minor gripe I know but trying to escape up a ladder away from a mob but clicking a message instead of the ladder can be annoying.

    Its damned good I have to admit and you keep wanting to play. I just feel they need to balance out the boss fights and sort the online component out.

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    re: Dark Souls - Possible Spoilers

    I really need to start playing this but so damn busy at work not had a chance. The game is sitting on the front room table mocking me. Got week of though week after next so really going to put some time aside for this then

    What starting class did you go for?
    http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Classes

    I completed Demon Souls with the Temple Knight, this time will either go Knight or maybe a caster.

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    re: Dark Souls - Possible Spoilers

    I went for Knight on Demons Souls, then added and levelled up ranged with Bow and magic. Excellent build must admit, can now get through it by poisoning tough enemies and hitting them long range with arrows and soul arrows. Works really well in any situation.

    This time though on Dark Souls went for Hunter, mainly been building up the stats for strength and endurance presently. Havnt sussed the magic side of things at all yet. I have got a wand of some sort but cant seem to find anyone yet that will train magic like soul arrow and poison. Good thing about magic is that you can move while casting it unlike a bow where you have to stand still to fire or he removes the knock.

    Another gripe on this is the merchants. On Demons Souls you could usually find someone on each level and there was people in the Nexus. On this I have only found 1 merchant that sells arrows so far in the Undead Burg, so when I want to restock I have to do a dummy run to him to restock. I hope there are more merchants later on as I wouldnt want to have to return to the first area every time I need a stockpile of arrows.

    I have found to kill certain enemies in most cases you have to find and use daft exploits, like the first Black Knight you come across.

    On that Wiki I have actually managed to make a contribution! The Black Knight Sword that is found in the Undead Burg. The ranged tactic on the site is what I added to it. I didnt have to fight the Taurus Demon in the Undead Burg. I ran to the opposite end of the battlement after doing a plunge attack. He ran after me and knocked me off where there is a hole in the wall, he then proceeded to jump off after me which killed him. Same thing happened in the Undead Parish with the small Tower Knight Guardian, I ran away and he fell off somewhere killing him. Gargoyles on the Parish Roof (Similar to the Maneaters on Demons Souls) is virtually impossible on your own, once the 2nd one turns up it takes you out by breathing fire while the initial one wails on you with a huge pike / axe (similar to a Halberd) hybrid with huge length. Thankfully I did actually manage to summon some help with this battle. Got a mage with strong Soul Arrow, He took out the fire breather while I took out the one with the axe thing head to head.

    I do like the game, but I dont see why they had to ramp up the difficulty even higher than Demons Souls. At times it can be infuriating.

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    Re: Dark Souls - Possible Spoilers

    Just spotted Joystiq had posted someone's speed run. 1 hour 26 mins spread across 7 YouTube vids
    My only concern is should I hide my true identity? A costume maybe?

    0iD: Plus weeing in it every now & again does it good
    scaryjim: 10" is just a little large to hold comfortably in one hand, which makes it a lot harder to tap, swipe and generally interact with.

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    Re: Dark Souls - Possible Spoilers

    I'm interested in getting this, I'm just a little worried it will be frustratingly difficult.

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    Re: Dark Souls - Possible Spoilers

    Its pointless doing a speedrun on this game. There is so much to see and take in, surprised that they managed to do some of the bosses at a low level in all honesty.

    I have made a bit of progress of the past few days. Managed to kill the Capra Demon (Rat type thing), Moonlight Butterfly which was a nightmare, I ran out of arrows and had to take it out gradually when it landed on the side of the battlement, ended up if it sneezed on me I would have died I had that little health left, thankfully it turned the tide in my favour and I managed to get one more thrust attack in before it done the nova thing before taking off. Also killed the Gaping Dragon in the Depths this morning. Thankfully I was in human form and managed to summon help for Capra Demon and Gaping Dragon, made the fight so much easier. Starting to see more summon signs near bosses now thankfully, so hopefully will keep on making progress.

    Not 100% sure where I am supposed to be going next though. Darkroot Basin , Catacombs or back to the Asylum. Tried the return to Asylum yesterday before fighting Capra Demon and got mullied, so went back to rethink strategies, got through Depths about an hour ago now. Think I will head into the Catacombs next actually, there is a Hydra that keeps killing me in the Basin (mind you what doesnt kill you! )

    I cant seem to find the entrance to Blightown presently (doesnt say on wiki either) as I believe the second bell is off in that direction. I am thinking Catacombs as the Covenant guy that is at Firelink Shrine said the maiden had a horrible mission to do down there, so guessing he was dropping hints as to me going there! The guy next to the fire also made remarks about her going there. Thankfully my Longsword is now +6 Divine so anything undead like skeletons and necromancers I should be doing more damage.

    All in all enjoying it a lot more now, making better progress which is always good. It was just getting a little infuriating with the bosses, now that there are more players turning up and offering help it is becoming more manageable. Think next time I am in zombie type form I may actually try and help a few people out with the bosses myself, return the favour basically, you do get humanity for helping kill a boss which REALLY helps keep the flow of things going.

    HSK, yeah its is frustratingly difficult, more so than Demons Souls. I was going to shelf it the other night I was getting that annoyed. Persevered though and getting there slowly. Its not like other 3rd person fantasy RPG's, closest thing to it is the old PC game Severance Blade of Darkness but more hardcore! You cant just go wading in or you will die. Everytime you block or swing a weapon it takes off stamina, once the stamina bar is empty you have to wait a few seconds without blocking for it to refill, hold your shield up and the refill takes longer. Each strike or block has to be concise, so you have to weigh up pros and cons of each fight regardless of whether you are fighting a boss or a low level undead knight.

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    Sounds raw, I think I will have to pick it up on the weekend!

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    Re: Dark Souls - Possible Spoilers

    Loving this game at the moment, completed demon souls only about a month ago. I have played about 25 hours already, gone through Taurus demon, amoured boar, gargoyles, butterfly.
    I went to where the first blacksmith is and in the room below him was a boss (quite hard) ending up running past him, went to the forest and got some decent elite knight armour.

    If you head out to where the ghosts are but go up the tower to drakes pass (not good with the names)
    You have a large sleeping dragon, I got some good drops from him until he awoke, but you can get past him, although there were 5 blue dragons!!! the other way where ther are 3 trolls in loin cloths is where you get to Blighttown and get the Blighttown key.

    speedinly typing this, got loads to talk about but stuck at work with limited internet time, so excuse the rushed post.

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    Re: Dark Souls - Possible Spoilers

    I realised reading another wiki on it that when you kill the Gaping Dragon in The Depths you actually get the key for Blightown. Then you go to the room with the merchant and you can unlock the door that way to gain entrance. Also found out that once you do Blightown you go into Quelags Domain which is basically 2 rooms, second room has the boss which when killed gives access to the second bell you have to ring. I believe in Blightown or just after the bell there is another elavator up to the Firelink Shrine, which means running back over to Undead Burg merchant for arrows is easier and quicker.

    The only things non boss related that are causing me problems now are the Black Knights, they seem to have unlimited stamina, hit hard and move fast, guess they will become easier when I level up further. I think they are like the Red Eye Knights in Demons Souls basically.

    I have only been invaded once so far and got killed pretty quick, apparently though at the min there are mismatches in the PvP matching, FROM are working on a fix for it. I just couldnt even hit the person that invaded me, they moved so fast and were jumping around to fast. Couldnt keep a lock on to them, you should have the option to stop invasions though, I dont do PvP at the best of times so it can just be a bit of annoyance occasionally. I do have a trinket or something that banishes phantom invasions, think I need to start getting it in my inventory slots and use it!

    I did manage to summon 2 blue phantoms for the Gaping Dragon, got a warrior / thief and also a spellcaster that didnt manage to keep their distance so ended up getting banished when killed. The warrior hybrid though went toe to toe with it while I hit it at range and do a bit of up close, all in all the teamwork was great. I got a coin / medallion in game for the summoning and not deciding to kill the phantom (yeah, you can turn bad as a blue phantom or summoner if you want and attack your partner! )

    The guy in the depths in the barrel I rescued taught me Pyromancy when I got back to Firelink, this is going to be handy as you can get Iron Skin under that school, Also managed to modify the glove already as I had the required upgrade stone. So going to up the attunement and magic a little now so it can be a bit more effective at range.

    Its all starting to fall into place now after around 23 hours in and now Soul Level 28, same way it did with Demons Souls. You tend to start hitting sweet spots when you get used to the mechanics and know what you are doing.

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