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    New NEOGEO games & NEOGEO AES System...

    This weekend I tracked down a forgotten shop in the suburbs & I bought 5 brand new NEOGEO AES games:

    Ninja Combat
    3 Count Bout
    Fatal Fury Special
    8-Man
    King of Monsters 2

    All 5 for 150Euros (181$)


    I noticed that there was no region code on the boxes, even though 2 of these only had Japanese text on them & same for the manuals.... The other 3 had English text.
    Can you play these on any NEOGEO AES console or are there 3 different region systems (Euro, US, JPN?) like SNES, Genesis, PSX, Saturn?, etc…

    Now I need a NEOGEO AES console to play them of course.
    Which NEOGEO system can play any game from all 3 regions?

    I live in Europe & my new 21” SONY TV can display at PAL/NTSC-50/60HZ & has RCA, Scart & RF Inputs.
    Will I have any problems playing the NEOGEO on that?

    How does the NEOGEO connect to the TV by the way?
    Is it RCA (Yellow. White, Red) like the PS-1/2
    Is it Scart? Like the Euro Saturn?
    Or is it a basic Compisite RF-Out that connects to the TV-Antenna like the old Genesis model 1?

    Does anyone know any good site/place where I could buy a brand new NEOGEO AES with 2 controllers?
    Or at least in good working condition?
    How much would it cost?

    Thanks in advance
    Last edited by retroborg; 21-06-2005 at 12:39 PM.

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    neo geo games are multi-region - the AES consoles are regionned, by a simple jumper switch.

    you're fortunate, actually - the bottom has fallen out of the neo geo market, you'd have been looking at £1,000 for an AES in good condition a few years ago. nowadays? £100-£300, depending on what comes with it

    as for the video connection, i think it should come with RCA or SCART, but can support RGB SCART or RF too

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    As for picture quality:

    http://nfg.2y.net/games/neorgb/

    Judging by that table, NEOGEO systems with serial No. range: 20,000-33,000 RGB:A Composite:B, should give the best overall picture quality.

    By the way is "Composite" referring to the regular RF Antenna connection?
    And is "RGB output" referring to the RCA (Yellow, Red, White) cable connection?
    Or are they something else?

    Thanks for the cool info guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retroborg
    As for picture quality:

    http://nfg.2y.net/games/neorgb/

    Judging by that table, NEOGEO systems with serial No. range: 20,000-33,000 RGB:A Composite:B, should give the best overall picture quality.

    By the way is "Composite" referring to the regular RF Antenna connection?
    And is "RGB output" referring to the RCA (Yellow, Red, White) cable connection?
    Or are they something else?

    Thanks for the cool info guys.
    composite == RCA
    RGB = RGB-SCART (SCART with all 21 pins used)

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    OK thanks for clearing that up.
    Which output would give the best picture quality?
    RCA or RGB-Scart?

    For example for my SONY PS-1/2, I connect them to the TV via RCA cable to the RCA-IN of the TV, but I can also use a small Scart adaptor & connect them to the SCART-IN of the TV.
    I haven't noticed any difference in the picture quality though.

    What type of modification does one have to do in order to get Stereo Sound output from the JPN NEOGEO AES?
    It surprises me that older consoles like the PCE & Genesis had stereo output from default, but not the expensive NEOGEO!

    It is not clear whether Universe Bios 2.1 will also let you change the in game text language from Japan to English? It only mentions that it gives:
    “The ability to quickly and easily change country region (great for games that disable blood under USA region).”
    http://unibios.free.fr/whatisit.html
    But does that also count for the in game text language too?

    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by retroborg; 22-06-2005 at 03:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retroborg
    OK thanks for clearing that up.
    Which output would give the best picture quality?
    RCA or RGB-Scart?

    For example for my SONY PS-1/2, I connect them to the TV via RCA cable to the RCA-IN of the TV, but I can also use a small Scart adaptor & connect them to the SCART-IN of the TV.
    I haven't noticed any difference in the picture quality though.

    What type of modification does one have to do in order to get Stereo Sound output from the JPN NEOGEO AES?
    It surprises me that older consoles like the PCE & Genesis had stereo output from default, but not the expensive NEOGEO!

    It is not clear whether Universe Bios 2.1 will also let you change the in game text language from Japan to English? It only mentions that it gives:
    “The ability to quickly and easily change country region (great for games that disable blood under USA region).”
    http://unibios.free.fr/whatisit.html
    But does that also count for the in game text language too?

    Thanks in advance.
    on games which are written multiregion, they usually have japanese, english and portugese text, equating to japanese, american and european regions. some games only have japanese (usually the mahjong ones)

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    I've never had a NEOGEO console, so I would like to know what basic output does a stock JPN NEOGEO AES have?
    RGB-SCART, RCA (Composite), RF-Antenna or all 3?

    Also can you adjust the volume of the NEOGEO head phone jack like the Genesis Model 1 using the onboard potentiometer?

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    OK, so to sum things up…



    1. The black "Genesis" Looking plug on the bottom right (circled in Yellow) gives composite RCA signal & connects the NEOGEO to the TV with an RCA cable & I can also get RGB-Scart-Out signal from the same plug using another RGB-Scart cable which will greatly improve the picture quality, compared to the basic RCA (Yellow - White) cable?
    Is this black plug, what the basic stock JAPAN NEOGEO AES is equipped with by the way?

    2. The Black plug (circled in Red), is this S-Video Mod?

    3. The yellow plug (circled in blue), is it an extra yellow Composite RCA video-out?
    If so how different is the picture quality to the basic stock RCA-out?

    4. The Red-White plugs (with the green square around them) are they the Left-Right Stereo Mod from the front jack?

    5. And what are the last 3 Red-Blue-Green plugs (with the orange square around them)?

    I also noticed that there is no RF-Out to connect the NEO to the Antenna of the TV.

    On a side note. I found this NEOGEO site:
    http://www.japangamesnow.com/
    Has anybody bought anything from there, is it reliable & are their products as good as they’re described in their site?

    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by retroborg; 23-06-2005 at 10:29 AM.

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    the first block of three is component R/G/B - one of the highest quality video connections possible (these are used on the xbox high definition cable)

    next two are just regular stereo RCA jacks, which will be needed by any other connection

    the next one is a composite video RCA jack, followed by svideo

    the last connector is for extra connectors not built into the standard console - SCART cables would plug in here, so would an RF modulator.

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    So the last black connector (Bottom-Right Genesis looking) is the only one the basic stock JAPAN NEOGEO AES is equipped?
    The Basic composite RCA cable also goes there?
    How different is the RCA display quality from this connector compared to the previous extra yellow composite video jack mod?

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    Thanks for info on this subject guys.

    If you know any other reliable site to order NEOGEO stuff, let me know.

    Cheers!

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