X360 Reviews start appear.

[Nick F]

24" Variant, some guy posted pictures of the monitor in all three HDTV modes too (480i, 720i and 1080i). Looks fantastic...

Cool I have got the 20" version so should still look amazing

[unreal]

Cool I have got the 20" version so should still look amazing

Same here, I was thinking of getting the 24" version for 1080i but 720i looks good already so I don't think I will

[Nick F]

"Which is better, 720p or 1080i?

Miles of webspace have been devoted to this much argued topic. 1080i is higher resolution, but is interlaced as opposed to progressive. 1080i TVs can be more expensive and aren't probably worth the extra. All 360 games will have to be 720p. 1080i is an option although it uses more processing power, so it is less likely to be used."

Good

[BrandX]

£280 for a console with one pad and no games, £40 for a years Xbox Live so you can get the most out of your games, £40 a pop for the games and a new tv needed to make them look any better than current gen titles?

Eek.

This is expensive on a very big scale.

The sort of scale you'd find on a fat dragons arse.

Oh yeh, £300quid for a 7800 GTX then 20 month for WOW. Not to mention the CPU/Mem/HD/Soundcard/Mobo/psu, yeh it's pretty cheap compared to PC gaming.

Seems like a bargain compared to my Opteron rig with a 7800gt.

Glad I won't need any patches either. Straight in and play. Unlike bloody Battlefield 2/Vampire Masquerade to actually make the games work on such exspensive parts.

Can't wait for launch day and my games WOOOHOO!

[Stewart]

You seem to be forgetting that a gaming rig isn't just a gaming rig, it does everything a PC does as well, because it is one.

Anyway, you are preaching to the converted - I've owned super fast gaming rigs, I've had MachII GT cooled CPUs flying at silly speeds, and the latest £400 GPU, gig of Corsair XMS, etc, and really, I've always been a console gamer at heart.

Just saying that with all this Xbox Live stuff and having to buy a new TV to get the most out of it, this console is very expensive.

Or maybe I'm just a bit older now and as such, more miserable.

[Nick F]

I think you are correct stuart. If you had a really old TV it would cost you a good £1000 to get a small LCD, the console and a couple of games. I'm lucky I can use my PC monitor to output HD or I might have brought a new Tv. I'm cutting back on games though and only getting two (PGR3 & Fifa 06) i'm waiting for demo discs to start appearing.

[Stewart]

Have a read of a few reviews before you buy FIFA 06 mate. Its well dodgy. No club teams, not the best looking game, and its so sloppy, the frame rate on replays is so low, the ball flickers in and out. Its got panned on all the reviews I've seen.

I suppose its a laugh, it doesn't seem to be a quality, polished finished product. And for a shiny new console, you want shiny new games.

[unreal]

Have a read of a few reviews before you buy FIFA 06 mate. Its well dodgy. No club teams, not the best looking game, and its so sloppy, the frame rate on replays is so low, the ball flickers in and out. Its got panned on all the reviews I've seen.

I suppose its a laugh, it doesn't seem to be a quality, polished finished product. And for a shiny new console, you want shiny new games.

I smell EA games

[TheBuZZard]

Its a "Road to the world cup" version rather than a proper version. First footy game Ill buy for Xbox360 will be PES next year.

[Deadlight]

Agreed. And if it's better than the already-sublime PC version - well, I mijght just..er, 'mess me trousers'!

[Stewart]

Its a "Road to the world cup" version rather than a proper version. First footy game Ill buy for Xbox360 will be PES next year.

Road to World Cup excuses the lack of club teams, not the fact its a (according to the reviews) lazy, shody football game. Anyway at £40 it costs as much as a 'proper' game.

Pro Evo 5 should be much better, yes. Looking forward to it.

[jonneymendoza]

so a 360 is pretty useles without a hdtv innit? so all and all it will cost enar enough teh exact same has a gaming rig has someone mentioned before.........

[unreal]

so a 360 is pretty useles without a hdtv innit? so all and all it will cost enar enough teh exact same has a gaming rig has someone mentioned before.........

But I guess the same thing can be said about all the next generation consoles. As the graphics get better, they reach a limit with TVs with low resolutions. Lucky for me I have a HDTV compatible monitor (I heard you can run the Xbox360 through VGA on a computer monitor, don't think HD mode though, completely unsure?)

Wait - a good rig with no monitor, or a really powerful console with a HDTV. I don't see how that can be compared to each other at the advantage of a computer. Unless you use a decent computer monitor, the same concept can be said for 'unless using a decent tv'?


One more thing, apparently, since these are release titles, they are using no more than 25% of the Xbox360 power. I can believe that since the console is new, and there are three cores to make use of. (I heard there are 2 operations these cores can do at a time, making it 6 cores in theory?)

[jonneymendoza]

yea man sounds sweet.. i will wait till games use the full potential of the 360. you still will be spending over 1200 on a 360 with games and a decent size hdtv with it. near enough the same price has a gaming rig!!! i rather save up and wait till pc's are superior than a 360 and spend money on that!

the fact that hdtv aint cheap is a major concern for alot of people. not just me. i mean ok how many people from the general public can actualy own or afford a hdtv??? i can see alot of people playing 360 on crappy tv's

[unreal]

the fact that hdtv aint cheap is a major concern for alot of people. not just me. i mean ok how many people from the general public can actualy own or afford a hdtv??? i can see alot of people playing 360 on crappy tv's

Yeah I agree on that... maybe they will buy the Xbox360 promising themselves in the future that they will buy a HDTV? Because even if they wait for the playstation 3 to come out, either way they look at it both consoles will look poor on their standard tvs.

[jonneymendoza]

yea and it aint good mate... consoles are getting as pricey has pc's now if u add up all the accessories u need to make full use of the console...