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    Microsoft: 1080p Gaming on consoles "impossible"

    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30480

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Henson, Head of Microsoft's Game Technology Group
    "I think 1080p, just to address that directly, will be basically impossible. I think if you talk to any developer they will tell you that they will not have a performing game at 1080p."
    Anyone want to break it to him that machines running 3GHz processors and SLi/Crossfire specced 7800/X1800 series + GPU's have been quite capable of running at resolutions beyond 1920*1080 quite comfortably for some time now?

    In fact, nVidia is so confident that current gen top end SLi gpu's have so much excess power, they're looking at giving them other things to do..

    ...and that's on relatively unoptimised bloaty pc's, let alone heavily optimised, single spec next gen consoles..

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    i think its been taken out of context. cant be arsed to read the blurb but i bet he's just talking about next-gen (ie ps3/xbox360) stuff..
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    Bloody M$ talking rubbish again

    Even my X1900XTX plays all of todays games @ 1920 x 1200
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    Well, yeah, kempez, that just proves that a very high specification PC whips any console going, or about to be going, for graphics performance. This isn't news. Stoo, XBOX 360 doesn't have SLi or Crossfire graphics and the PS3 won't either. You can talk about PCs being unoptimised and bloated all you want, but we know the limitation on playable framerates at high resolution is largely a case of the horsepower of the graphics card(s), and if I'm running BF2 or UT<whatever> then however much stuff is going on in the background on my unoptimised and bloated PC, none of it is competing with the game for any of that horsepower. The net effect is that Henson's probably absolutely right.

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    Its another

    'we wont need more than 640kb ram and 500mb hard drives'

    Give it a couple of generations and we will probably playing on something stupid like 1500i, 3200X2400 etc, with all the danglies
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    True - in a couple of generations perhaps. Henson's talking about developers saying they won't have 1080p working on consoles as we know them now or in the near future - he was responding to the idea of 1080p being available or not on the PS3.

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    I thought it was? And even if it isnt, it will be in the next gen
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    I think the problem lies who the hell got a 1080i TV.

    Only a few 23+ inch LCD monitors have such resolution. But *most* people care about inches and 23(or even 30 inch) is too small for them.

    If they want 1920x1080 they would have gone down the computer route.
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    What I don't understand is that with M$ and Sony having the current gen of GPU's why the HELL couldn't they make them run in 1080p??
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    Quote Originally Posted by kempez
    Bloody M$ talking rubbish again

    Even my X1900XTX plays all of todays games @ 1920 x 1200
    Which probably cost more than the entire 360 premium console itself
    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    And by trying to force me to like small pants, they've alienated me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent
    Which probably cost more than the entire 360 premium console itself
    But if you belive the hype is a generation behind in terms of gpu power

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    Quote Originally Posted by herulach
    But if you belive the hype is a generation behind in terms of gpu power
    Yeah....If
    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    And by trying to force me to like small pants, they've alienated me.

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    Precisely^....thats what I mean. ATI;s GPU is supposed to be more advanced than the X1900XTX
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    I'd rather Sony included 5 speculative technologies (Blu Ray, 1080p) and see 3 of them being used by developers, than play it safe and keep the hardware conservative.

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    Most people I know only have a TV that does 1080i. HDTV became big in the United States before there were 1080p sets, so most people aren't going to upgrade their tv again just for that little extra from the PS3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smtkr
    Most people I know only have a TV that does 1080i. HDTV became big in the United States before there were 1080p sets, so most people aren't going to upgrade their tv again just for that little extra from the PS3.
    Yup, but a TV which does 1080i doesn't even mean it plays 1080i natively.
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