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    Help stop EA by signing this petition against spyware in BF2142!

    http://www.petitiononline.com/eabf2142/

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    Ugh.. here we go. It's not my favourite idea ever, but it isn't spyware.

    Please step away from the bandwagon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    This is one game i wont be buying!
    Aye me 2. Would have looked at buying it if they hadn't made such a hash of sorting out bf2. And had they not brought out all those silly add ons that do nothing.

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    Boycott BF2142 spamware

    Battlefiled 2142 spamware is not only a reality, it is the worst example of intrusion I have ever seen in a game.

    You can read about it at my site kickassgear.com.

    BF2142 is just a mod of BF2, and the main change they made was to put billboards all over the maps. The mandatory spamware scans your cookies (takes time) figures out where you surf (takes time) and then sends info to spammmer servers around the world so they can start spamming you in the game (takes time and bandwidth).

    If this were a free game, fine... but I paid $50, and now I am really mad. I am returning the game. I am boycotting all games with mandatory "in-game advertising".

    Enough is enough.

    Dr. John
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    Did you just pull that out your ass?

    IGA's CEO gave a complete description of what the software does a few lines up. It records your IP(almost everything records your IP), and calculates how much you look at the boardsm the angle and your local timezone. Yeah it's annoying we didn't get the game any cheaper or any benefit from it, but so long as everything it does is limited to BF2142, then it isn't spyware, or spamware or any other midly scary word you want to throw infront of 'ware'.

    You know what spam is? linking to your own site in your first post and I put money on you never posting here again except to re-but me

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    According to article on theregister.co.uk, the spyware also looks in you browser cache and cookes to see what sites you have visited and better target the adverts.

    If you think about it, if all they are doing is recording your IP address country, and when you are on line, they can easily do that by looking at the server logs. They can probably figure out how long you saw a billboard and how much of your screen it took up with some more code on the server.

    If BF2142 is anything like BF2, EA will run most of the servers anyway, so they will have access to all the info they claim they are collecting without putting anything on people's PCs

    The fact that they are putting extra spyware on people's PC's implies that they are not being honest about what info they are collecting.

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    Theregister has long been the source of dubious reports. If you're really bothered, install the game and monitor what it sends, wont be that hard.

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    Biggest problem is despite be audience specific, what happens if Pampers comes up by accident... sure as **** would take my focus of the game and make me lose.

    We have 5 elements which make up this theorem.

    The Capacino Theorem:

    BF2142 = Gaming = Escapism
    Ads = Real World = Negative Escapism
    Negative Escapism + Escapism = Nothing

    Therefore BF2142 + Ads = Nothing
    Last edited by AlCapacino; 18-10-2006 at 08:03 PM.

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    *Laughs* - I like your theory.

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    my heart bleed for justin and EA when i read "knew the kind of painful transition that most publishers are going through right now" aww poor EA it must be tough eating all that caviar and driving a BMW.
    Someone also found this on toms hardware http://tomshardware.co.uk/2006/05/31...n_game_ads_uk/ the mans ignorance no's no limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckskull View Post
    Theregister has long been the source of dubious reports. If you're really bothered, install the game and monitor what it sends, wont be that hard.
    I am not trying to start a flame war or anything, but you are strangely quick to defend EA. Do you represent them in any way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrestomanci View Post
    I am not trying to start a flame war or anything, but you are strangely quick to defend EA. Do you represent them in any way?
    No i just bothered to read about what the software actually did, before jumping on the "omg EA is teh ebil and knows where you live" bandwagon. Most of the spyware stories are pure fiction.

    Not one of them has any credible evidence of what they claim, and it would be very easy to prove.

    I'm far from being EA's biggest fan, but I'm less of a fan of BS. the software doesn't, interfere with anything outside of the BF2142 application, it does not monitor internet browsing, it does not install itself secretly, in fact theres a huge un-needed disclaimer warning you about it.

    It simply doesn't fall into any of the traditional definitions of spyware. It may be a pointless money grabbing excercise, but that doesn't make it spyware.

    Use a packet sniffer and find my cookies list being sent to a central server and I'll change my opinion.

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    Battlefield 2142™ ReadMe File V3.3
    September 18, 2006


    In order to play Battlefield 2142 online, you must have the following ports open in your firewall.

    TCP 443
    TCP 17475
    UDP 27900
    UDP/TCP 29900
    TCP 80
    TCP 4711
    UDP 27901
    UDP 1500-4999
    UDP/TCP 1024-1124
    UDP 29900
    UDP/TCP 27900
    UDP 16567
    UDP 55123-55125
    UDP/TCP 18000
    UDP/TCP 18300
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadduckUK View Post
    Battlefield 2142™ ReadMe File V3.3
    September 18, 2006


    In order to play Battlefield 2142 online, you must have the following ports open in your firewall.

    TCP 443
    TCP 17475
    UDP 27900
    UDP/TCP 29900
    TCP 80
    TCP 4711
    UDP 27901
    UDP 1500-4999
    UDP/TCP 1024-1124
    UDP 29900
    UDP/TCP 27900
    UDP 16567
    UDP 55123-55125
    UDP/TCP 18000
    UDP/TCP 18300
    battlefield 2 was the same i just looked in the back of the back of manual and it recommends opening about 18 diff ports

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    Yeah BF2 likes having loads open. you'll find most are just if you want to host a local server etc. I only ever opened one and it works fine for me.

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    Port 443 ?
    Thats SSL isnt it ? - you'll find it hard to sniff stuff over that.
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