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    Tv license for a gfx card??

    recently purchased a gfx card from ebuyer under a friends name and somehow tv license got ahold of this info and stated the product from ebuyer was a piece of television recieving equipment, (WHICH ITS NOT) hassled me under my friends name to pay for tv license for it when i already have it under my name and they dont even live with me all sorted now but be aware when purchasing gfx cards........

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    Weird. Does the DPA allow provisions for the TV licensing people?

    We got hassled by them loads at uni. I didn't have a TV. I wasn't letting them in (I don't see why the hell I should!) and in the end I lost my temper with him.

    Didnt hear too much after, but they are a right PITA.
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    They're communist vultures.

    Always tell them where to shove it. I always make sure I have a license but they still see fit to harass me or my housemates from time to time.
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    Still the same at uni agent, nothing changed at all. Just makes me laugh that in a hall they expect people to have a full TV license per room (if you want a tv obviously).

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    If it has a tv tuner built in then you may well need a TV licence. Otherwise they are poking around where they are not welcome!
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    from what i recall the seller has to supply info to tv licence deptment when you buy anything that can be used with tv signals

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    Quote Originally Posted by menthel View Post
    If it has a tv tuner built in then you may well need a TV licence.
    Not unless it's being "used" to "receive" TV signals.

    Of course, the definition of "used" that applies legally isn't necessarily the common-sense one. But if the card has no aerial attached to any tuner, and/or isn't tuned in, then it shouldn't be able to receive any TV transmissions and doesn't need a licence.

    You don't need a licence to possess TV receiving equipment, only to use it to receive TV transmissions. For instance, you don't need a licence to possess a video recorder (with a TV tuner built-in) if you only use it to play back pre-recorded tapes or your holiday videos, and you don't even need a licence for a TV if you only use it to play console games or watch DVDs.

    The same applies to TV cards - it's about usage, not possession.

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    how do they know if u are recieving transmission? Do they come in and check? or have a van and check through a radar? Cause someone asked to come in last year and i told em to fo and get a warrant
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    funny thing is that they can't tell if you are using a PC monitor....

    guess they are just out to get your money
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    Quote Originally Posted by finlay666 View Post
    funny thing is that they can't tell if you are using a PC monitor....

    guess they are just out to get your money
    Incorrect.

    It's not the "display" they detect. It's the tuner. To receive a signal you often generate a local version of the carrier frequency, and that can feedback through the antenna, turning it into a transmitter.

    It tells them if you're watching broadcast TV, and they can even work out what channel or mux you're watching.

    Nowadays, however, not all tuners behave quite like that, but it's not anything to do with the screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    however, not all tuners behave quite like that, but it's not anything to do with the screen.
    So what I said was actually true

    They can't tell if you are using a PC screen or not......
    (possibly a tad ambiguous from the first post)
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    lol, fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    Incorrect.

    It's not the "display" they detect. It's the tuner. To receive a signal you often generate a local version of the carrier frequency, and that can feedback through the antenna, turning it into a transmitter.

    It tells them if you're watching broadcast TV, and they can even work out what channel or mux you're watching.

    Nowadays, however, not all tuners behave quite like that, but it's not anything to do with the screen.
    I heard a rumour once that if you cut the shielding in the cable, they can't detect when you are watching it. Never tried it myself though (never had too ). If it interrupts the feedback, I suppose there could be some truth to it, assuming you still get a good signal in the first place.

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    The 'having to report when goods able to receive TV transmissions are sold' rule is a frustrating one. I was buying a cheapo TV for someone from Argos and had to give my name and address even though I stated it wasnt for me.

    I started getting warning letters and had to ring them in the end stating the license for the house I was living at was under someone elses name >:/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    Incorrect.

    It's not the "display" they detect. It's the tuner. To receive a signal you often generate a local version of the carrier frequency, and that can feedback through the antenna, turning it into a transmitter.

    It tells them if you're watching broadcast TV, and they can even work out what channel or mux you're watching.

    Nowadays, however, not all tuners behave quite like that, but it's not anything to do with the screen.
    Well, in as far as it goes, yes. But there's a lot of kiddology goes on in this arena, too.

    One of their common checks is certainly the screen. If they can see it from outside, and you're watching broadcast transmissions, then that forms part of their evidence.


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    how do they know if u are recieving transmission? Do they come in and check? or have a van and check through a radar? Cause someone asked to come in last year and i told em to fo and get a warrant
    In a very high percentage of cases, they either ask for entry and people agree, or people give answers to questions that incriminate themselves.

    But yes, one way is for them to come in and check. But, of course, they can't insist on entry without a warrant, so coming in either requires that you give permission or that they get a warrant.

    Warrants aren't all that common, but they do still happen a large number of times a year. Suppose, as I mentioned above, the officers have seen (through a window, perhaps) a broadcast transmission being received (be it on a TV or a computer monitor), and have asked for permission and been told to "fo". That's exactly when they'll go to magistrates, report that they've seen a set in use, that there appears to be no licence, and when they asked to be allowed to enter to check, were told to "fo". In a fairly high percentage of places, a warrant will be issued on the basis of that. So, the danger in telling them to "fo and get a warrant" is that next time they show up, they'll have one.

    Of course, if you have nothing to hide, they'll enter, conduct the search, find nothing and depart. But if you are using a set licence-less, you'll then probably end up in court and could have the devil's own time avoiding a conviction.

    Tempting though it is to tell them to "fo", if I had nothing to hide, personally, I'd let them in to establish that ..... or I'd buy a licence if I did have something to hide.

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    i have told them 3 times over the phone i dont have a TV...still every month i get threatening letters

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