Global Warming (Busses !)

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20-02-2007, 11:23 PM
Fjorko

Global Warming (Busses !)

So the government wants to cut CO2 gasses yeah ?. So every night from work I end up driving behind these polluting busses. I can hardly breath, and because I drive with my fan on no.2, I end up choking in their fumes, sometimes the cr@p coming out of the exhuast is so BAD I can hardly see the bus infront of me !!!!

Do busses have to get MOT's ? I can hardly believe that these "chimnies on wheels" can get past a MOT test - what makes them so special that they can get away with polluting the air like this ?
20-02-2007, 11:25 PM
dave87

Because at their peak, they carry 60 odd people, so their fumes /60 = not a lot...
20-02-2007, 11:35 PM
badass

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Originally Posted by dave87

Because at their peak, they carry 60 odd people, so their fumes /60 = not a lot...

But most of the time, they have 1 or 2 people on them everywhere but london.
21-02-2007, 12:08 AM
chicken

Good point! I don't cycle much but years ago I would cycle to work in the summer up a pretty steep hill, if the bus was passing at the same time I'd have to stop. Apart from the obvious coughing from the black fumes, it felt like it had used all the air up nearby. Apart from 8am and 6pm runs you were lucky to see 2 people on that bus!
21-02-2007, 12:11 PM
Rave

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Originally Posted by Fjorko

So the government wants to cut CO2 gasses yeah ?. So every night from work I end up driving behind these polluting busses. I can hardly breath, and because I drive with my fan on no.2, I end up choking in their fumes, sometimes the cr@p coming out of the exhuast is so BAD I can hardly see the bus infront of me !!!!

CO2 doesn't smell. I daresay what you're choking on are particulates.

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Do busses have to get MOT's ? I can hardly believe that these "chimnies on wheels" can get past a MOT test - what makes them so special that they can get away with polluting the air like this ?

Yes, they have to pass an MOT test. If you think a vehicle is unreasonably smoky, then you can report it to your local authority. In London, buses don't tend to smoke at all unless they're faulty, the latest ones have Euro IV compliant engines. I daresay that outside of london, the buses tend to be older and smokier.

A single decker bus can do in the region of 10-13mpg I believe. Even with 4 or 5 people on board that's pretty good economy per person, and with 50 on board, it's extremely good. I would also point out that if you were on the bus rather than in your car, you wouldn't be breathing its fumes;).
21-02-2007, 12:14 PM
Kezzer

In terms of pollution, vehicles aren't a main cause of CO2 emissions, apparently.
21-02-2007, 12:16 PM
Lee H

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Originally Posted by Kezzer

In terms of pollution, vehicles aren't a main cause of CO2 emissions, apparently.

What is? The politician's at Westminster blowing out all their hot-air as normal ?
21-02-2007, 12:22 PM
Kezzer

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Originally Posted by Lee @ SCAN

What is? The politician's at Westminster blowing out all their hot-air as normal ?

That was listed as the top most likely cause for all greenhouse gas emissions in the western world.
21-02-2007, 04:43 PM
chicken

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Originally Posted by Lee @ SCAN

What is? The politician's at Westminster blowing out all their hot-air as normal ?

That and cows...
21-02-2007, 05:04 PM
MadduckUK

volcanoes?
21-02-2007, 05:05 PM
Clunk

Why dont they just ban greenhouses?
21-02-2007, 05:08 PM
directhex

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Originally Posted by Clunk

Why dont they just ban greenhouses?

or gasses
21-02-2007, 05:09 PM
Kezzer

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Originally Posted by directhex

or gasses

Even flatulence is forbidden.
21-02-2007, 06:17 PM
Andeh13

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Originally Posted by Kezzer

In terms of pollution, vehicles aren't a main cause of CO2 emissions, apparently.

I heard that aswell, cars are just the easiest target these days.
21-02-2007, 06:19 PM
Digerati

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Originally Posted by Andehh

I heard that aswell, cars are just the easiest target these days.

Exactly... Cows can't pay tax.
21-02-2007, 06:44 PM
chicken

Jumping back a bit here...

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Originally Posted by Rave

CO2 doesn't smell. I daresay what you're choking on are particulates.

What's that smell when you breathe in the gas at the top of a brand new bottle of pop then? :confused:
21-02-2007, 07:33 PM
Rave

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Originally Posted by chicken

Jumping back a bit here...

What's that smell when you breathe in the gas at the top of a brand new bottle of pop then? :confused:

Well, there isn't one really. CO2 is mildly acidic, so if you get a load up your nose it'll dissolve in the water in your nose lining which will make it sting a bit.

Can I just say that I came up with that explanation before I double checked on wikipedia, before anyone accuses me of blatant plagiarism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide
21-02-2007, 10:41 PM
chicken

Maybe I'm just schiznosephrenic but I'd say CO2 has quite a strong smell :O_o1: Smells like burps! :mrgreen:
22-02-2007, 10:14 PM
KBeee

My burps smell pleasantly of roses
Much like my g/f's frats (so she tells me)