Honda go green and F1 2007

So honda's new livery eh?

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=38534

Apparently people can sign up to have their name's on the car, I assume this means companies that want to 'look' like they are helping the environment.

The site - http://www.myearthdream.com/ opens on the 27th Feb.

Also what are people's opinions on the people/teams this year. Looks like BMW are one to watch and Williams look to have improved (thank god) McLaren however seem to be the one to beat in testing AND seem to be reliable :surprised:

Honda have improved but there is no real evidence of where they will be, would be good to see Jenson get a good car though.

So anyway what are your thoughts/views on Honda's green stratedgy? Personally I think it is a good idea and who/what team would you put money on if you were a betting man, especially now there is no Michael Schumacher!

MYSTERY SOLVED :) (see monday joke thread)

Running an F1 car is probably THE quickest way to knacker the environment...

I really dont understand the joke now :lol: hmmm

It's mostly a PR thing for Honda, but I don't blame them for trying. They're adding 'value' to the sponsorships by adding in 'green' credentials and saying that people signing up have to pledge towards acting greener.

As far as the teams go, I think the Ferrari is looking in fantastic shape but I don't think they've got the drivers to get too far ahead. Massa's quick, but I don't think he's got the head on him to be a title contender. Raikkonen I think will take a while to get used to the car - if he can even understand it well enough to get developments suited to him in the first place.

BMW Sauber look almost as quick, but I don't think they've got the nous to win (many) races just yet - think Honda of a few years ago.

Maclaren.. agreed - I think they've got a very good chance of doing a good job. Again I think it'll take Alonso a while to get used to things, but I think he will quicker than Raikkonen - I expect he'll be like lighting in the second half of the season. Hamilton... I think he'll crash a lot :p

Honda.. I think they've looked disappointing in testing. Hopefully they're just being realistic unlike the last few years where they blitzed around on low fuel for testing and then were rubbish in the races. I think Barrichello will give Jenson a good run for his money this year.

Williams - yep, much improved.. but again I question the drivers. I think there will be the occasional brilliance on tracks that suit the car, but I don't believe they'll be as reliable as they're making out.

OOps -renault.. Car will probably make a strong start, but not sure the drivers can push the development in the right direction. I'm sure fisi will do a good job, but think kovi is probably quicker.

Red Bull look to have a much better car - think they'll top Toyota this year. Super Aguri could pull some shock results if they're allowed to keep their car. I don't think STR will do as well though - I'm sure that Ferrari engine isn't going to do them any favours. Toyota.. another disappointment except for perhaps one or two races.

Wild predictions

Drivers Championship: Alonso
Constructors: Ferrari

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Originally Posted by Jonny

Running an F1 car is probably THE quickest way to knacker the environment...

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If you read the article it does actually state that F1 is carbon neutral. Also F1 cars are far less polluting and more efficient than any road going car if you were to make them do the same job.

Drivers championship: Massa
Constructors: Ferrari

(as posted in the other thread, and now moved here)

It's (myearthdream.com) apparently going to be a site where people can add their support to Honda's cause, and those who do, will have an entire pixel going towards the livery of the car. Apparently.

I just love the irony of them using their F1 car to promote green causes. F1 cars being one the single-most inefficient small-scale modes of movement possible.

Kalniel, I would agree with your prediction on Alonso but I think that McLaren will take this one, I also think that Williams will be top 5.

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Originally Posted by Jonny

Running an F1 car is probably THE quickest way to knacker the environment...

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I think some of the teams offset their carbon footprint to make up for the polution their cars and crews do.

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Originally Posted by 99flake

Kalniel, I would agree with your prediction on Alonso but I think that McLaren will take this one, I also think that Williams will be top 5.

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Oops, forgot williams, you're right. Edited.

I think they'll do ok, with the odd flash of brilliance but I don't think it'll be a return to the top tier quite yet, over a whole season.

The reason I don't think Maclaren is that it's second drivers that win you constructors championships - Ferrari have two good drivers, and I don't think Hamilton will finish enough races to beat that pairing.

I wouldn't write off Hamilton just yet - it can go either way. We've seen enough rookies that make themselves known in their debut year . . . unfortunately more frequently than not to be a bit quieter in continuning years. Plus it's a new shiny McLaren.

Ferrari did well in Barcelona testing - top of the pack, Massa first, 2/10ths behind him Raikonnen, and only 2/10ths behind him, Button. I hope Honda do well, nothing to do with their PR gig though - last year it was (fair enough BAR promoting themselves) smoking which kills people and all of a sudden they want to save the world. Bandwagon.

Before Barcelona, Massa had already stated that the BMWs/Williams (cant remember which one) will be the ones to be weary of.

Massa's certainly a very quick pace setter, but his race performances have been hit n miss. I'm not too enthralled by Kimi driving for Ferrari, hopefully he left his bad luck behind with McLaren. That's about the only way Alonso wont walk away with the championship.

Unfortunately, the Ferrari drivers (think they) have much to prove which might be detrimental to the team. I'm sure they've thought and planned for this anyway, so I hope I'm proven wrong.

Drivers Championship: would like to say it's open, but Alonso's looking too good for it at the moment.
Constructors Championship: Wouldn't want to say until after the first few races, too much optimism for each team in the press.

woooo looking forward to it this year, finally with Schumacher out of the way i hope to see some proper honest racing.

:P

I'm really looking forward to this year's F1 championship. I very much hope that Button pulls it out of the bag or I fear it will be his last chance.

Thanks for highlighting the website, I'll be on there tomorrow morning.

Firstly, I think the car looks horrific :surprised: Screw the environment, go back to the interim livery and make it look all sleek and sexy again dammit !

Regarding the season, I never really bother too much with winter testing times. Look at last year, Honda seemed the team to beat then did very little when it mattered. I'd love them to do really well in 07, but I think they'll just do OK.

McLaren seem to be a good bet this year, if the cars are in any way reliable. I think Lewis will do damn well, he certainly seems the best rookie prospect for a good while.

BMW are starting to get some performance and credibility, and I'd be quite interested to see how Albert 2 benchmarks ! What's the term for 1024 cores anyway ? And only 2048 G/b ram ? Pffft ! :lol:

Ferrari should be as good as usual and it's great that we'll finally find out if the Kimster is truly quick, or if he's flattered to deceive.

I'm just hoping that we have a Brit on the podium at Silverstone. I'm betting we will because I go on alternate years and I'm not going this time so it's sods law I'll miss something big !

Bring it on !

Oooh, in about 15 minutes time the site will be open. I wonder what delights we shall find inside? Or will it just crash with loads of people trying to access it :p

*coughs*

Launching 9am GMT..

Now.. they've just removed that text.. so it's launching sometime today :p

Yeah I noticed that when I refreshed the page at about 9.05 :P

BMWs are apparently looking good over the long-runs, but I can't expect them to do too much. It's only their second season as a top team (if you include the Sauber team they took over). They're certainly not contenders for either championship in my opinion, though I expect they'll be pushing for race wins on a couple of occasions.

Honda don't look like doing much. It's all been very negative vibes coming out, but they may get better as the season progresses. Again, possibly a contenders for a win or 2, but that'll be it. I expect BMW will out-perform them for the majority of the season. Frankly, Nick Fry permanently annoys me, as does James Allen's, and ITV's in general, love (literally I fear) of Jenson Button. I'm looking forward to first time Super Aguri (in what will essentially be a 2006 Honda) will out-perform them. :P

McLaren appear to be 2nd best to Ferrari at the moment. Apparently at Bahrain, McLaren have so far been running a Melbourne set-up, and Ferrari are supposedly doing that this week, so we might be able to compare them semi-directly :P. General consensus is that Ferrari are a couple of tenths a lap to the better so far, and we all know the Macca will break down in every race. Hamilton's looking good pace wise, but it's unfair to expect him to out-race Alonso in 2007, who's Mr. Onitallthetime through races. Perhaps a bit of the Buttons to him (good pace, not much results wise), particularly early in his career.

Can't expect Williams to be near the front for a while yet. It's sounds encouraging from winter testing, but after the season they had last year, you can't expect much from them. Challenging for points will be a decent achievement, and hopefully they'll keep on building and get back to the where they belong. It's easy to forget they're probably now the team with less funds than anyone - Spyker included. They've always done things on a shoe-string, even back in the mid-eighties and early nineties when they dominated. Now money is everything, they'll not be winning a championship for a while. :(

Red Bull, now with an Adrian Newey design, have looked lost and hopeless in testing - a bit like in 2006 when they had major cooling issues. This year there's no specific problems, just a raw lack of grip and pace. The most fun team on the grid, and I think everyone wants them to do well, but it's going to be just gunning for points, and even that's going to be difficult early on. They're just not fast enough. No-one expected them to be winning races just yet, but most thought they'd have a shot at podiums. Not going to happen unless they find major turn of speed.

Renault aren't going to be winning much. They too don't seem to have much pace, which is particularly surprising - you'd expect their drivers to be struggling for consistency, but never thought their speed would be a problem. Wins are still probably on cards, but they'll not approach the form Alonso gave them in 2005 and 2006. Heikki will probably get the better of Fisi by the end of the season.

Site's open now, here's the link to save you the effort of going back a page :P http://www.myearthdream.com

Hehe I pledged £2 and said I would give up ironing :p Don't do ironing anyway so everyone's a winner!

So what do you get? A Pixel?



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Leeloo Dallas Multipass

Dunno, find out on the 12th March apparently.

£5 for a pixel for me. I'd chip in more if they'd spray the fecker black again.

Who's betting that every single male pledge is a vow to give up ironing. There's really only 1 to pick :mrgreen:

£5 for me too.... Ironing again :)

You know I really like Honda at the mo, having just bought a brand new Type-S (roll on Friday) I'm probably biased. I like their attitudes and style. Of course this is all marketing but its affective and fresh.

Yup, quite like their brand and philosophy. Yes, I do know it's marketing and no, I don't just like the fancy adverts :mrgreen:

Missus likes Mazda more and she makes bigger bucks so my request for consideration of a Honda went out of the window. Now she just annoys me by going "zoom zoom" a lot. Pity Mazda aren't in F1 :mrgreen:

Enjoy the new wheels noTHINGface