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About LinkBacksIf there is 'nothing there', there is nothing to copy, surely?Originally Posted by j1979
This is a lost cause
If there is 'nothing there', there is nothing to copy, surely?
This is a lost cause
is squatting stealing. your not paying rent.
Ermm....with or without the property owners permission?
These analogies are just getting more weird, wacky and further away from the subject in hand
In a word? Yes...
Try as I may, I just can't resist the urge...
Dont call me shirley.
You owe it to yourself to click here really.
well im just trying to gauge you. I think your just like my dear old mother, strait as a die.
I do know the difference between right and wrong. But i dont think recording the top 40 forty charts on a sunday is stealing.
i also dont think, Cloning another animal is stealing but i do think its wrong ethicaly. But copying music, words, software is only stealing in my opinion if you pretend that you produced it.
But that just my opinion...
Last edited by j1979; 09-04-2007 at 12:34 AM.
well not according to current law its not.
anyway i only posted original because i needed to make 5 posts before i could post a URL in my own thread.
did not know Mary whitehouse would be here
Last edited by j1979; 09-04-2007 at 12:51 AM.
anyhow got to go, posting to this thread is stealing all my bandwidth, i need it all for my collection of "stolen" goods.
(it is) but im my opinion its just a pointless way to waste a few hours which could be spend getting ready for your handbags at 30 paces
Personally I think software piracy can actually help companies, look at MS, they had a LOT of piracy with xp and people used it, but when they made certain downloads unavailable unless you had a legit version some more people bought it (compared to if they were going to buy it anyway)
IMO it does come down to if it actually a lost sale, if you had no intention of buying it, and were testing it/getting an open source version then try it and/or get the OS one, but if you had planned to buy it and decided to steal it instead then its a no-no
Which is why I said "in a word".
How can you try to justify something for nothing? What does this thread have to do with something for nothing? Companies have inflated prices over here. Those who care will (and do) complain. It's not like it's restricted to the software market.
Saying that stealing a car and copying software is one and the same thing is just ridiculous.
Its not a question of it being morally ok to or not
For someone who did a bit of economics, it's quite easy to demonstrate how software like Windows, Photoshop, and basically any specialist software, is overpriced. At the end of the day, one person may need it so much they'll spend £10,000 on it, but for the person who only is willing to pay £50 - they won't be able to afford it - even though it cost less than that for Adobe to produce that single unit, so there's a sale that they've lost that would have benefited both adobe and the individual, creating economic prosperity and world happiness.
But by pricing it higher, the person who would have paid £10,000 will still buy it, and even though more people lose out by not having access to resources that they may need (photoshop is an industry standard I think, so for any graphic designer it's necessary to have access to it), Adobe make more money out of the rich people (and the UK gets charged more because we're stupidly rich), and that's how capitalism works folks.
The only damage that would occur to companies revenues, is the guy who is willing to pay £10k for it who pirates it instead of paying £500. But I think that normally, it's the people who at 'normal' prices would have paid for it, end up pirating it, because the inflated prices (due to market failure with the monopoly thing going on) mean they can't afford it.
The people who pirate it who wouldn't have bought it anyway at 'normal' prices don't really do any harm or good (except for helping to distribute it), it's basically like letting someone borrow something you've bought.
Although communism doesn't work, and if we say 'everything is free' then of course, people will stop developing software. However, it is bad in every sense (except in the short term for Adobe's profits) to overcharge for software due to a monopoly, or overcharge for anything else for that matter - and that's why the EU is trying to fix things for us.
Profit is necessary, but the profit that Microsoft and Adobe make is called supernormal profits, which means the net benefit to everyone in the world ever is less, but all gets sucked into MSofts bank account.
Has that fella gone for real? It's been a long time since I've seen someone so unapologetically stupid in here....quite refreshing really.
Anyway, away from watching the idiot walk, watching the idiot talk.....
Paying double for Photoshop!!?? It's an OUTRAGE!!!!
Can't we just buy it from the US and ship it? I know we'll pay shipping and import duties, but it's still got to be cheaper.
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all we need is a Hexus.us ............ that way they could send it on to us as a gift
Dreaming: Do you even realise that by having such a high piracy rate it means more are using their software so are more likely to buy it in future? just look at MS and their habits (as I said before)
and j1979: *yawn*
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