I am taking a degree in Economics and Politics dispite been 18. So I know quite a bit about the way politics works and how likey our votes are to effect the outcome of an election.
When you do and don't vote you aren't making an individual act. You are acting as part of a demographic of people. As much as we may feel we make individual decisions we don't, if you make a decision you can damn well be sure that a great many other people who fall into your demographic make that decision as well. So when you decide to vote or not vote remember it's not just you making that choice, it's thousands, maybe millions of other people just like you making the same decision together so it is worth acting.
Fact is all the people who don't vote for reasons of feeling it makes little differance fall into a pretty similar demographic, and not coincidently they are the most ignored by political policy.
"You've gotta laugh when you fall off a sofa!"
Do not know why anyone wants the Conseratives back in after last time, there have been huge improvements considering since then if you forget Iraq.
I think more people are voting cons because they know Lib Dems are not big enough for parliment and Cons are the only real alternative from Labour. Not because they can do anything better.
The truest statement would be they are all as Good/Bad as each other to the point it should be acceptable to vote and not to vote because either will not make a difference....
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Where are these improvements?
Crime? Full prisons, slap on the wrists, ASBOs, on the spot fines (don't make laugh), violent crime soaring, we're now the highest dependant drug users in Europe.
Taxes? 80 tax rises, countless new taxes, anyone who says we're better off tax wise needs a kicking.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...a_source=&ct=5
Europe? Signed away our hard earned rebate, signed us further into Europe without a general vote, the EUROPEAN HUMAN RIGHTS ACT, we're also the only Country out of the big 4 who put in more than we get out. Good job Labour.
Education: Student Fees. The Scots don't have them. We didn't have them, why do we now? Top up fees also.
Generally, Education has been impressive under Labour, however:
* Primary: improvements in literacy and numeracy have slowed and class sizes for five- to seven-year-olds have risen again
* Secondary: the Government has failed to get to grips with reforms to the examination system
* Universities: highly unlikely to reach the target 50 per cent of youngsters in higher education by the end of the decade
SLEAZE: How they've got away with so much is beyond me. The Tories would have been slandered in every newspaper in the world.
EDIT: VIEW - http://labour-watch.com/sleaze.htm
Immigration: Under Labour. I don't need to say anymore, because even they admit they don't know how many people they've let in and how many are working illegally.
Labour have had 10 years. They have flounded and failed. Too much red tape, too much tax. It's not their fault - with no credible opposition, they've been able to do as they wish.
10 years, and even true, life long Labour supporters have had enough. And so have I, and the majority of this Country.
Please, please respond with these Labour improvements. Please. I need a good laugh this afternoon.
Last edited by Bazzlad; 04-05-2007 at 04:57 PM.
Did I mention Pensions? Petrol - remember the fuel crisis? Where Tony aged 10 years in a week. The Fake plastic police, instead of hiring more Police to do the beat, hire powerless idiots in a uniform whose single purpose in life is to give directions.
Mama Mia
When you vote for a Party you aren't voting on individual policy. You are voting on a group of policies which for the most part are overriding NHS/POLICE or whatever the "hot" topic is.
The every day running and the normal proceedure of droping in a few laws (such as ID cards or the Iraq War) can play 0 part in election campaigns and thats why people have a right to query the government at every turn.
Just look at Israel's backlash at its government over the conflict against hesbollah. (sp?), huge amount of outcry and the prime minister is not moving....
TiG
Well the economys been stronger under labour so at least the rich are richer.
"You've gotta laugh when you fall off a sofa!"
The worst bit is, they were HANDED that "Golden Economy" by the previous Government - The Tories.
BAZZLAD
The point I was trying to make was how do you or anyone know if this would of been different if the cons were still in power
Conservative may of handled things differently but who is to say it would of been for better or worse? and who is to say they are going to be any different than Labour?
I knew after posting my view on this you would be the 1st to reply which make me laugh as I saught of temped you to do so purposely. I can post litterature linked to the web of issues of time when Cons were in, have they changed will things change dramatically if they get in?
Drug use has evolved natuarally from bad education and the communities in which we live in now who seem to accept it. (Years ago people would consider drug use far worse than they do now)
FYI I did not vote and I do not have any preference on any party really, so I have nothing to post to make you laugh apart from the fact that you mention SLEAZE: How they've got away with so much is beyond me. "The Tories would have been slandered in every newspaper in the world."
So Labour has never been slandered in the newspapers???
a question for you would be do you honestly believe Cons will be any different or do you only support them because they serve you cheap beer at you local working mens club?
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the worst thing ia how they claim to help poor and middle class people and then make road charges which stop these people from being able to drive cars and free the roads for the rich who dont care what theyre charged :0 i didnt vote because im not old enough
The question is, my friend, could they have done any worse? I noticed you've replied without trying to argue with any of my points, the reason being I must assume, is because you can't. Labour have screwed up our Country repeatedly.
That's the whole point. I know what Labour are capable of, I've seen it for 10 years, I don't know what the Tories would have done in those positions, but I'm not willing to have Labour back in power.Conservative may of handled things differently but who is to say it would of been for better or worse? and who is to say they are going to be any different than Labour?
And I can post links from the General Strike in 1928 (26?) under Labour that bought our Country to a stand still. But, like your point, it's irrelevant. I'm not voting for Thatcher. I'm not voting for Major. I'm voting for Cameron. Judging a party on it's past is like crowing about how Aston Villa won the European cup. I can, however judge Labour on what they've done/are doing now. And it stinks.I knew after posting my view on this you would be the 1st to reply which make me laugh as I saught of temped you to do so purposely. I can post litterature linked to the web of issues of time when Cons were in, have they changed will things change dramatically if they get in?
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/TUgeneral.htm
And who is in control of Education? Look at the figures, it's over a short period of time, not a long one, communities don't change in a few years.Drug use has evolved natuarally from bad education and the communities in which we live in now who seem to accept it. (Years ago people would consider drug use far worse than they do now)
The number of people in drug treatment had increased from 85,000 to 181,000 between 1998 and 2005.
The number of drug war prisoners has also increased by 111% in the past decade, and sentences are nearly a third longer than when Tony Blair took office.
Did you notice that the figures coincide with when Cannabis was legalised?
Not to the extent that the Tories were in the 1990's, and they did a lot less that this Teflon Government we have today. Mandelson anyone?FYI I did not vote and I do not have any preference on any party really, so I have nothing to post to make you laugh apart from the fact that you mention SLEAZE: How they've got away with so much is beyond me. "The Tories would have been slandered in every newspaper in the world."
So Labour has never been slandered in the newspapers???
For the record Mr condesending the only time I drink in a working man's club, it's the Labour club in Stourbridge.a question for you would be do you honestly believe Cons will be any different or do you only support them because they serve you cheap beer at you local working mens club?
Of course I think the Conservatives will be different, maybe not amazing, but I can't see them being any worse.
Last edited by Bazzlad; 06-05-2007 at 04:33 PM.
IMO polititians are nothing more than legalised crooks
So I spoiled my vote on thursday for the 1st time ever
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