Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 63

Thread: Fat people are just greedy, says BMA chief

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    1,238
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked
    42 times in 40 posts

    Fat people are just greedy, says BMA chief

    What do you think, is the head of the British Medical Association Dr Hamish Meldrum right?


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../03/nhs303.xml
    Deo Adjuvante non Timendum

  2. #2
    TiG
    TiG is offline
    Walk a mile in other peoples shoes...
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Questioning it all
    Posts
    6,213
    Thanks
    45
    Thanked
    48 times in 43 posts
    I don't think anything in this world is truely black and white, but exercise and cutting down on food never hurt people stay at a non obese weight.

    TiG
    -- Hexus Meets Rock! --

  3. #3
    Bryce
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Stonehaugh
    Posts
    452
    Thanks
    6
    Thanked
    4 times in 4 posts
    wow he's head of the bma, i wonder if he thinks anorexics are just not greedy enough and that alcoholic's just drink too much etc
    this Doctoring business is real simple
    Last edited by coco; 04-08-2007 at 11:06 PM.

  4. #4
    its all clear now
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    1,251
    Thanks
    60
    Thanked
    19 times in 17 posts
    • No.72's system
      • Motherboard:
      • commando
      • CPU:
      • e6300 3.50ghz artic 7
      • Memory:
      • 4gb corsair red tracers
      • Storage:
      • 320gb RAID0
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 4870XT
      • PSU:
      • 620 watt corsair
      • Case:
      • coolmaster 831 SE orange
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2407WFP AO4
      • Internet:
      • 10 meg virgin
    Think about it, he isn't wrong.

  5. #5
    Senior Member Kezzer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    4,863
    Thanks
    12
    Thanked
    5 times in 5 posts
    So what are fat people if they're not greedy?

    Let's check the dictionary here.

    An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs
    Generally fat people eat too much, more than what they need in fact, and fat people usually have a desire to eat more than they need, surely this fits into the greed category? As No. 72 said, think about it, logically, he's not wrong.

  6. #6
    Goron goron Kumagoro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    3,107
    Thanks
    37
    Thanked
    153 times in 126 posts
    Im all for a fat tax, then i might be motivated enough to do some exercise.

  7. #7
    Bryce
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Stonehaugh
    Posts
    452
    Thanks
    6
    Thanked
    4 times in 4 posts
    there are many reason's why fat people overeat to say that it's because most are just greedy is so stupid , so then if obese people are just greedy then what are anorexics ?

  8. #8
    Admin (Ret'd)
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Posts
    18,481
    Thanks
    1,016
    Thanked
    3,208 times in 2,281 posts
    Quote Originally Posted by vicar View Post
    What do you think, is the head of the British Medical Association Dr Hamish Meldrum right?


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../03/nhs303.xml
    What I think is that before I decided if Meldrum is right or not, I'd like to see exactly what he said, and in context.

    It's very easy to take a sentence or two, or even a phrase or two, and make it sound like it meant something it didn't. From what I can find, Meldrum didn't say that fatness or obesity is never a medical issue, but rather that fatness is often over-medicalised, when in fact the causes are more "societal".

    I have no doubt that there are cases where the cause is medical, for instance, genetic. There is certainly strong evidence from genetics studies that identify links between a number of single gene mutations and obesity. But that's a far cry from being able to blame all fatness and/or obesity on a genetic predisposition.

    Personally, I'm carrying a few more pounds than I should be, but a few less than I used to. In the intervening period, my diet has improved a bit, and I'm certainly getting more exercise than I used to. So I'd be rather inclined to associate my weight change with diet and exercise than genetics. If that's what Meldrum was saying, and I rather suspect it was, then I agree with him.

    It's far too easy to seek a magic bullet, a weight-loss pill, that will address being overweight without having to change our busy or overly comfortable lifestyles. My personal bet is that a LOT of excess weight is due to lack of exercise, too much food and far too many fast-food meals. Average affluence in many Western countries means that we can afford a style and quantity of diet that couldn't be afforded, on anything like a large scale, 50 years ago.

    I rather suspect that what Meldrum was saying was that the medical solutions (pills, surgery, etc) should be a last resort for weight loss, not an early option or first choice. Ahead of that should be the far harder to achieve lifestyle changes that, in many cases, would resolve the problem with no need for medical intervention at all. And, if that's the case, then the medical profession isn't doing people any favours my attaching slick pseudo-medical phrases to something that really should generally be the responsibility of the individual to address .... by eating less, or better, or getting more exercise .... or better yet, all three.

  9. #9
    Nefarious Networker Dareos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Larkhall, Scotland
    Posts
    3,386
    Thanks
    453
    Thanked
    400 times in 297 posts
    • Dareos's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z77 - UD3H
      • CPU:
      • Intel i5 Ivy Bridge
      • Memory:
      • 16GB Corsair Vengeance
      • Storage:
      • Crucial M4 128GB, Seagate Barracuda 2TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte Geforce 670 OC Windforce x 2
      • PSU:
      • Corsair 1050 Modular
      • Case:
      • Fractal R3
      • Operating System:
      • Win 7
      • Monitor(s):
      • 27" DGM and 40" Samsung TV
      • Internet:
      • 152 Mb Virgin
    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post

    It's very easy to take a sentence or two, or even a phrase

    Personally, I'm carrying a few more pounds than I should be, .
    yer right, it is easy

    but, you are right, and being 6'4, and weighing erm, slightly more than i should for this height, i took it upon myself to lose it (at the same time i quit smoking).

    its working, i hope

    nothings black and white, we all have different metabolisms etc etc etc, but we all have to put some effort in
    We're only here for the Banter - The Luvvies - Chewin' The Fat

    Violence and Lubrication is the solution to fixing everything, if it still doesn't work, you need more lubrication.

    Quote Originally Posted by this_is_gav View Post
    How do you change the height of them?

    I've just had a quick fiddle with the knob at the front :\

  10. #10
    Senior Member Kezzer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    4,863
    Thanks
    12
    Thanked
    5 times in 5 posts
    I've got the slowest metabolism known to man, which is why I control my diet so carefully. The other half has never had to do exercise in her life, and she's much, much slimmer than me. Damn these fast metabolic rates!

  11. #11
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Who Cares!
    Posts
    4,092
    Thanks
    8
    Thanked
    61 times in 52 posts
    Some people are fat due to illness so you have to be careful. Probably 99% of fat people are just greedy hogs!!

  12. #12
    Grumpy and VERY old :( g8ina's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Northampton
    Posts
    6,621
    Thanks
    2,465
    Thanked
    1,555 times in 1,046 posts
    • g8ina's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASRock Z75 Pro3
      • CPU:
      • Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz 3.40 GHz
      • Memory:
      • 16GB Corsair 1600MHz DDR3.
      • Storage:
      • 250GB SSD system, 250GB SSD Data + 2TB data, + 8TB NAS
      • Graphics card(s):
      • XFX Radeon HD 6870
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster Elite 430
      • Operating System:
      • Win10
      • Monitor(s):
      • Iiyama 22"
      • Internet:
      • Virgin 100MB unlimited
    There may also be a genetic disposition (IMHO). My wife's family are all "large" but really not big eaters.

    Bev lost 9 st a year or two ago, but even on a strict "sensible eating" regime (not a diet, mind), she still managed to put 4 st back on I see what she eats and there is no way she eats too much ! Averages 1300 cals a day.
    Cheers, David



  13. #13
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Who Cares!
    Posts
    4,092
    Thanks
    8
    Thanked
    61 times in 52 posts
    Maybe she should eat under 1000 a day.Plenty of exercise.

  14. #14
    IBM
    IBM is offline
    there but for the grace of God, go I IBM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    West London
    Posts
    4,187
    Thanks
    149
    Thanked
    244 times in 145 posts
    • IBM's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P5K Deluxe
      • CPU:
      • Intel E6600 Core2Duo 2.40GHz
      • Memory:
      • 2x2GB kit (1GBx2), Ballistix 240-pin DIMM, DDR2 PC2-6400
      • Storage:
      • 150G WD SATA 10k RAPTOR, 500GB WD SATA Enterprise
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Leadtek NVIDIA GeForce PX8800GTS 640MB
      • PSU:
      • CORSAIR HX 620W MODULAR PSU
      • Case:
      • Antec P182 Black Case
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 2407WPF A04
      • Internet:
      • domestic zoom
    funny thread....where's that article the bbc did recently on people having a prejudice against fat people because they automatically associate it with contagious disease? Damn, can't find it....

    I've always thought fat people were either lazy or ate too much, but then again, I'm a skinny guy without an addictive personality. So it's easy for me to say. If I actually had to cut down on what I ate so I wasn't fat, I'd probably find it really difficult to do. It took me five years to quit smoking, and I was well aware of the risks involved.
    sig removed by Zak33

  15. #15
    ?!
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    1,045
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked
    6 times in 5 posts
    Cant help but think the chief said something like that just for the attention.

  16. #16
    Senior Member Andy3536's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    2,355
    Thanks
    164
    Thanked
    194 times in 135 posts
    • Andy3536's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte GA-880GMA
      • CPU:
      • AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 95w @3.8
      • Memory:
      • 4GB Corsair XMS3 1600MHz
      • Storage:
      • 1T WD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • ATI 4870
      • PSU:
      • Corsair 750
      • Case:
      • Antec P-182
    As Jimmy Carr says
    You have a thiriod problem.........so what do you take for that, pies!

Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Little issues that annoy the hell out of you
    By megah0 in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 340
    Last Post: 30-10-2007, 06:28 PM
  2. Statistics for countrys
    By SilentDeath in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 23-05-2005, 12:33 PM
  3. Burglars
    By BEANFro Elite in forum Question Time
    Replies: 148
    Last Post: 08-01-2005, 06:07 PM
  4. Likes\Dislikes
    By Areku in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 35
    Last Post: 23-09-2004, 04:54 PM
  5. Why don't people signal?
    By Firelord in forum Automotive
    Replies: 30
    Last Post: 07-09-2004, 03:42 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •