What do you think, is the head of the British Medical Association Dr Hamish Meldrum right?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../03/nhs303.xml
What do you think, is the head of the British Medical Association Dr Hamish Meldrum right?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../03/nhs303.xml
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I don't think anything in this world is truely black and white, but exercise and cutting down on food never hurt people stay at a non obese weight.
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wow he's head of the bma, i wonder if he thinks anorexics are just not greedy enough and that alcoholic's just drink too much etc
this Doctoring business is real simple
Last edited by coco; 04-08-2007 at 11:06 PM.
Think about it, he isn't wrong.
So what are fat people if they're not greedy?
Let's check the dictionary here.
Generally fat people eat too much, more than what they need in fact, and fat people usually have a desire to eat more than they need, surely this fits into the greed category? As No. 72 said, think about it, logically, he's not wrong.An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs
Im all for a fat tax, then i might be motivated enough to do some exercise.
there are many reason's why fat people overeat to say that it's because most are just greedy is so stupid , so then if obese people are just greedy then what are anorexics ?
What I think is that before I decided if Meldrum is right or not, I'd like to see exactly what he said, and in context.
It's very easy to take a sentence or two, or even a phrase or two, and make it sound like it meant something it didn't. From what I can find, Meldrum didn't say that fatness or obesity is never a medical issue, but rather that fatness is often over-medicalised, when in fact the causes are more "societal".
I have no doubt that there are cases where the cause is medical, for instance, genetic. There is certainly strong evidence from genetics studies that identify links between a number of single gene mutations and obesity. But that's a far cry from being able to blame all fatness and/or obesity on a genetic predisposition.
Personally, I'm carrying a few more pounds than I should be, but a few less than I used to. In the intervening period, my diet has improved a bit, and I'm certainly getting more exercise than I used to. So I'd be rather inclined to associate my weight change with diet and exercise than genetics. If that's what Meldrum was saying, and I rather suspect it was, then I agree with him.
It's far too easy to seek a magic bullet, a weight-loss pill, that will address being overweight without having to change our busy or overly comfortable lifestyles. My personal bet is that a LOT of excess weight is due to lack of exercise, too much food and far too many fast-food meals. Average affluence in many Western countries means that we can afford a style and quantity of diet that couldn't be afforded, on anything like a large scale, 50 years ago.
I rather suspect that what Meldrum was saying was that the medical solutions (pills, surgery, etc) should be a last resort for weight loss, not an early option or first choice. Ahead of that should be the far harder to achieve lifestyle changes that, in many cases, would resolve the problem with no need for medical intervention at all. And, if that's the case, then the medical profession isn't doing people any favours my attaching slick pseudo-medical phrases to something that really should generally be the responsibility of the individual to address .... by eating less, or better, or getting more exercise .... or better yet, all three.
yer right, it is easy
but, you are right, and being 6'4, and weighing erm, slightly more than i should for this height, i took it upon myself to lose it (at the same time i quit smoking).
its working, i hope
nothings black and white, we all have different metabolisms etc etc etc, but we all have to put some effort in
I've got the slowest metabolism known to man, which is why I control my diet so carefully. The other half has never had to do exercise in her life, and she's much, much slimmer than me. Damn these fast metabolic rates!
Some people are fat due to illness so you have to be careful. Probably 99% of fat people are just greedy hogs!!![]()
There may also be a genetic disposition (IMHO). My wife's family are all "large" but really not big eaters.
Bev lost 9 st a year or two ago, but even on a strict "sensible eating" regime (not a diet, mind), she still managed to put 4 st back onI see what she eats and there is no way she eats too much ! Averages 1300 cals a day.
Maybe she should eat under 1000 a day.Plenty of exercise.
funny thread....where's that article the bbc did recently on people having a prejudice against fat people because they automatically associate it with contagious disease? Damn, can't find it....
I've always thought fat people were either lazy or ate too much, but then again, I'm a skinny guy without an addictive personality. So it's easy for me to say. If I actually had to cut down on what I ate so I wasn't fat, I'd probably find it really difficult to do. It took me five years to quit smoking, and I was well aware of the risks involved.
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Cant help but think the chief said something like that just for the attention.
As Jimmy Carr says
You have a thiriod problem.........so what do you take for that, pies!![]()
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