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So radiohead are letting you download their new album, and choose how much to pay for doing so.
This could be quite intresting I think, as the normal rules of consumer expectation will not apply (ie say the Filterbrats having half their music on myspace is worthless because no one knows who they are, even thou i think they are quite good, odds are you wouldn't think they where worth £5).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7021743.stm?lsm
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i just read about that there now... im not a huge fan of radiohead to be honest... i reckon id pay a fiver...
I am, but i didn't like their last offering as much.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMC
Yet still all i'd pay is 5. Its too badly compressed.
Think it would be quite intresting if people posted how much they'd pay for it, and their approx "disposable" income each month (ie net - rent/mortgage), because this could be quite intresting.
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Me £5, less thanks too the compression. £1,800
whats the bitrate? cant find it anywhere
Doesnt come with one, thats why its cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadduckUK
£5 is more than most bands get from a sale.
its a dupe!Quote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
yep, i hope this works out for them, will encourage more big names to try the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeePee
is £5 the min price?
no 45pence is
And the 3 was missing from all the MP3s...I feel cheated.
I ordered the Boxset, get 2 cd's, 2 lp's, artwork and a book for £40. If its **** I can ebay it, although I doubt it will be :D
Very interesting piece of market research.
If they had a lossless download i'd probably give them about £8 for it.
I'l wait for the CD to be released though.
so... any word on file format & bitrate yet?
its kind of an important factor, i cant believe no-one knows?
Does it really matter to the majority of the public? ;)
[I am favour lossless - though I must admit that it doesn't affect the perceived sound as much as other part of my setup]
It's only out on the 10th. Patience good friend, patience. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MadduckUK
radiohead easily being my fave band (i even have a radiohead tattoo) im going to have to go 4 this box thing. hopefully the download will be 320kbs
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ok, i would of ordered but it keeps erroring and generally annoying me grrrr.
The public wouldn't know what sound quality was if it punched them in the ear'ole. It's the main reason why itunes and ipods are so popular. If I pay for a product I want the highest audio quality possible (within reason) and that goes for the music player as much as the file format.Quote:
Originally Posted by TooNice
Just ordered the download for £0.00! :)
If it's any good I'll buy the hardcopy to go with the rest of my RH collection...
I think the DL is going to be the real deal.
Bands are lucky to get £2 from each sale of a £16 CD on the highstreet...
If they can sell direct for £3-£4 pounds they will make the same money and cover their costs...
If I like the CD I'll buy it, if I don't I won't - I have tons of CD's that I have bought for £15 or more that I never listen to, when I got them home they were rubbish....
Good for Radiohead!!
My Receipt:
''Order Number WAS1871
Order Date Tue 2nd Oct 2007
Your Name
Your Address
United Kingdom
Description Qty Each Total
Download
1
£ 0.00
£ 0.00
Total Goods Price £ 0.00
Order Total £ 0.00
This transaction will appear on your credit card bill as WASTE PRODUCTS LTD. or a shortened version of this.
Discbox customers.
You goods will be shipped on or before 3rd December 2007 by post.
Information regarding the download (included with the Discbox) as per below.
Download customers.
You will receive a further e-mail shortly before the 10th October detailing your username and activation code. The e-mail will also provide the link to the download area.
We value your custom.''
Wow thats wierd.
Not entirely sure why people would choose to pay anything over the absolute minimum price though. Its one thing supporting an up and coming band that you like, but supporting a bunch of millionaires would seem a bit odd. It would be like sending Richard Branson a christmas card with a tenner in it. "Keep up the good work Richard! And a happy new year." It also looks a bit cocky to give your stuff away. Its not really... its quite cool. But I'm sure some people will think it looks arrogant. "Whats next, are they going to start using £50 notes for the album sleeve?"
As someone who doesn't like them though, I am excited at the prospect of getting it for free, and then deleting it.
Uc this is what i was wanting to find out by the how much would you pay, vrs net disposable income.Quote:
Originally Posted by acrobat
Thing is, I can't understand why you would inversally value a commodity by how rich the 'group' that make it are?
That logic would suggest that oil should be free, and linux should cost the earth, you can't just ignore scarcity.
Link:
http://www.inrainbows.com/Store/index3.html
No information on the quality, bitrate, format or DRM.
I bet the download is a sheet of lyrics with a few guitar tabs so that all the cheap bstards can sing it for themselves :).Quote:
Originally Posted by chrestomanci
You wouldn't. But still, why give a millionaire money for something you can get for free? Isn't your money valuable to you? I mean.. I love some bands so I'm happy to buy their album for a tenner. But I wouldn't buy two just to support them.. especially if they are already doing well to the point that they are all multi-millionaires.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAnimus
Why does Radiohead being millionaires have to come into it?
I don't want a lossy version of the album, so I'll buy the CD when it is released. If they had a lossless download that isn't DRM crippled i would think about getting that instead. But i would definitely pay for it. If they had released it for free download without any kind of payment box that would be fine, but they are working on the honour system of payment* and i would feel obliged pay a reasonable amount for it.
*our company does the same for tea, coffee and bottled water. Everything is essentially free, but now and then you are expected to put a pound or so into the jar, this then goes towards company nights out.
BBC report
Most are stumping up a reasonable amount for the album.
Maybe they're using a dynamic bitrate, depending on how much you pay.
For £0.00 you get a square wave.
After hearing a track on Zane Lowe's show last night, they'd have to pay me to download it :(
Was it Thom Yorke moaning quietly over what sounds a lot like a Casio drum machine factory preset, by any chance?
You heard it too?Quote:
Originally Posted by schmunk
Just been on the website and wanna check i`ve got this right.
i order the box set and I get the new album the day it comes out digitally?
I like radiohead I like the fact that they do music for themselves instead of to appease the music industry with Ok computer they where set to become the biggest band in the world but instead of pandering to the music industry they decided to do what they wanted and came out with Kid A which I enjoyed.
If I was just gonna buy the album i would prolly give them at least 5 pound but I am gonna order the box set when I get my card
As far as I understand it, if you order the boxset you get the digital version on 10 Oct and the real thing ships to you on 3 Dec.Quote:
Originally Posted by kopite
I think it's a great experiment, and will produce the best data available about how much people really value music. Everyone knows that Radiohead is into producing their own sound rather than fitting into a pop stereotype.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by schmunk
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Originally Posted by charleski
Its a great experiment but I cant see it being a true represntation of the music buyers. Radiohead fans are usually pretty loyal to the band so I reckon are more likely to pay a bit more than fans of many other bands. Not to take away from other bands but radiohead fans are pretty devoted
I paid £8. I love Radiohead, (even the new stuff).
Radiohead - Officially the biggest unsigned band in the world.
How funny is that!
They do seam to protect them with a terminal intensity.Quote:
Originally Posted by kopite
I do find it intresting thou how people arrive at valuing music. Often justifing pure and simple theft.
I would love to have access to their buyers database, overlayed with some 'tesco type' of shopping information and their tax info. Gawd, i'm becoming a quant geek :(
Well I paid zip! And here is the latest email from them...
''THANK YOU FOR ORDERING IN RAINBOWS. THIS IS AN UPDATE.
YOUR UNIQUE ACTIVATION CODE(S) WILL BE SENT OUT TOMORROW MORNING (UK TIME). THIS WILL TAKE YOU STRAIGHT TO THE DOWNLOAD AREA.
HERE IS SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE DOWNLOAD:
THE ALBUM WILL COME AS A 48.4MB ZIP FILE CONTAINING 10 X 160KBPS DRM FREE MP3s.
MOST COMPUTERS NOW HAVE ZIP SOFTWARE AS PART OF THE OPERATING SYSTEM; IF YOUR COMPUTER DOES NOT, YOU NEED TO GET WINZIP OR ZIPIT INSTALLED PRIOR.
YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THEM HERE:
PC: http://www.winzip.com/
MAC: http://www.maczipit.com/
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS DOWNLOADING YOUR FILE, PLEASE CONTACT OUR DOWNLOAD CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM AT
downloadinrainbows@waste.uk.com''
How cool is that!
mp3 i'll buy. infact, i did.
http://www.whatpricedidyouchoose.com/
Did you reply with something witty like;Quote:
Originally Posted by poindextermatic
http://www.twistedmindz.co.uk/images/capslock.jpg
Why nothing? Why not even 50p? Do you not think that their work is worth something? I find that attitude towards other peoples' intellectual rights disgusting.Quote:
Originally Posted by poindextermatic
I hate the pride he's showing in the fact that he's got a hard working bands music for nothing - especially one who have gone AGAINST the grain, taken a massive risk and said - hey you want it, give us what you can afford.
If it's an album worth owning, I'll buy it on CD when it's released next year. Seeing as it's available on download now, has anyone listened to it and what's it like?
I can't agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by 99Flake
I'm as firm a believer in copyright protection as you'll likely find on this forum. I've argued for it again and again and again.
BUT what a rights holder does with their rights is entirely up to them.
If they wanted to provide an option that allows what boils down to an option to have the album for nothing, then that's their right. They must have foreseen that a percentage of downloaders would do exactly that. If they wanted to impose a minimum price, then they should have done so. But if they had done so, then they would have foregone the publicity generated from the "free" option.
You could argue, cynically, that letting some people download for nothing probably means that mostly they'll be people that wouldn't have paid anyway, but that MIGHT download it, like it and then buy that or other albums.
But whether it's a cynical commercial risk or not, they said people can pay what they like, and must then take the good with the bad.
Personally, I'm not much of a radiohead fan. But even I might be tempted to get around to downloading this and trying it, as it's "free". And who knows, I might end up buying their stuff as a result. But I wouldn't be buying it if I had to pay for the download. But .... if I download and don't like it, I'll delete it.
In my opinion, this is a perfectly healthy attitude towards IP rights, because the decision to allow free download is that of the rights holder. They can then hardly moan if some people choose to take them at their word.
And if other big bands follow suit, this really could spell the end for big record companies. And I don't have a problem with that. If bands get to to their own thing, and make it or break it based on talent rather than marketing budget and record companies get cut out of the middle, tough luck on record companies.
But either way, it's Radiohead's free choice to do it this way, for better or worse. Good luck to them.
Exactly.. it's just a PR stunt intentionally or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saracen
Besides, they don't make a great deal from record sales these days, they probably make more from the world tours they go on.
If they offer it for free then so be it, that's there problem. If I like it, I'll purchase the hard copy to go with my collection, notice that the cd has bonus songs! -so they weren't giving it all away!
Guys what about the music. Thoughts? I'm not amazed but it could well be a grower
Like all their albums since KidA, this will take some time to get into, but feels more accessible than Hail to the Thief. I quite enjoyed it on first listen, though someone needs to do them a favour by breaking into their studio and stealing all their fuzz boxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by micrar
I listened to the first 5 tracks and was very impressed,
Nude was a standout as was track 2 (very energetic!).
Will listen properly and critique later!
Good album, gets better with every listen!
I joined the subscription list:Quote:
Originally Posted by directhex
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Originally Posted by email from whatpricedidyouchoose.com