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    Music banned, what next...books?

    Okay, so music with murderous and anti-gay lyrics offends some people, but then they shouldn't listen. Put a warning sign on the CD, don't ban the music.

    I really hope this doesn't spread around the country, our freedom of speech is slowly, but surely, being sucked away.

    How long before we face the burning of books?

    Brighton bans 'murder music' | Metro.co.uk

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    Re: Music banned, what next...books?

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, Freedom of speech is NOT the right to say anything you want without consequences, you still have to act like a decent human being and more important, the right to free speech is NOT to be placed above other people's rights to live a life without fear or attack.

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    Re: Music banned, what next...books?

    It's political correctness gone mad!

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    Re: Music banned, what next...books?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven W View Post
    Okay, so music with murderous and anti-gay lyrics offends some people, but then they shouldn't listen. Put a warning sign on the CD, don't ban the music.
    There's a difference between saying that a gay sexual orientation is wrong (which is an opinion - one with which I don't agree, but it is still an opinion), and what's reported which is:
    The Jamaican MC's track Boom Bye Bye (to the batty boy), which advocates killing gays, sparked an outcry.
    The US has actually developed a quite sensible distinction between speech as opinion and speech as conduct; in that context it's acceptable to state, for instance, that segregation should be reintroduced, but NOT to instruct people to go out and kill members of racial minorities. They recognise that while you cannot ban people from holding an opinion, instructing others to go out and take violent or otherwise criminal action on the basis of that opinion goes way, way beyond that, and falls outside the ambit of speech whose freedom should be protected.

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    Re: Music banned, what next...books?

    I can't see the problem with this to be honest. I've never heard it, but if the music is implying what has been reported, then it shouldn't be available.

    If you knew someone had bought a record suggesting that kids should be subjected to horrific paedophilia, you'd be horrified, wouldn't you? In my mind there's little difference.

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    Re: Music banned, what next...books?

    Can open. Worms everywhere.

    I for one objected to 'Ebeneezer Goode'... purely on the basis that it was a thinly veiled advocacy to take Ecstasy... should've been banned, tbh.
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    so killing gays is wrong, but straight people are fair game?

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    Re: Music banned, what next...books?

    What's wrong with taking Es?

    Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, however... TEH BANZ0R IT NOW!

    And as for Golden Brown by the Stranglers, I'd ban it twice. Once for hinting that its ok to strangle people, and once for being about heroin. And once for being ****. So thats 3 times.

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    Re: Music banned, what next...books?

    Nick - that track was about more or else every drug under the sun - but then again so was most of the early 90's acid house genre.

    I think Brighton's done the right thing. Its not the first time that particular artist has been censored. They aren't banning the Sales of CD's , just the playing in liucenced venues ( where the 'public' dont have a choice of what music is heard )
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    Re: Music banned, what next...books?

    The irony is that most people would have never heard (of) the track's lyrics anyway, if it hadn't been banned.

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    Re: Music banned, what next...books?

    I think they should ban something that incites murder. But the problem is, I don't trust the people to make the right decisions on this stuff, and to fully understand the context of all songs... As has been described above, there are loads of edgy songs, and if you ban one thing and not another, it ends up being just about personal taste, or personal perception etc.

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    Re: Music banned, what next...books?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moby-Dick View Post
    I think Brighton's done the right thing. Its not the first time that particular artist has been censored. They aren't banning the Sales of CD's , just the playing in liucenced venues ( where the 'public' dont have a choice of what music is heard )
    The problem is you shouldn't use the censoring of freedom of speach lightly.

    And there are many artists in a genre i don't particularly apprechate who go on about power, money, guns and girls. I supose money is power, and power stems from the barrel of a gun, but often the lyrics are asserting power status by the things they have, which you or I do not, or the things they do, ie go and beat people.

    Why is it they are only banning violent gay lyrics? Should the smiths be banned, as whilst not violent (least none i can think of) its depressing and paints homosexuality as a lonely life?

    Personally i think clubs should be allowed to play what they want, if someone is insiting hatread, then you bring charges against them, as pushing it underground would only hurt matters, i've got this loverly picture of the church of eminem right now!

    So less regulation, more common sense, its hardly as if a club in brighton would want to alienate the gay population now is it?
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    Re: Music banned, what next...books?

    Who decides which records incite murder and which ones don't?

    If you're going to commit murder or go on a riot you're the sort of person who'll find any excuse to do it, it's nothing to do with music or films or videogames.

    Banning opinions isn't the answer.

    I take it Brighton will no longer be able to listen to Eminem tracks?

    I've never been to a nightclub where they play Buju Banton's track. They've used that as the most extreme example.

    And, what do they class as 'other minorities'? People with ginger hair, acne sufferers, the disabled?

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    Re: Music banned, what next...books?

    I dont think I'd want to go to a club where they played Buju Banton either - sounds rubbish

    I think this is the media putting a spin on it. I'd be interested to see wha'ts on the black list and why.
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    Re: Music banned, what next...books?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moby-Dick View Post
    I think this is the media putting a spin on it. I'd be interested to see wha'ts on the black list and why.
    Black list? BLACK LIST? B-L-A-C-K L-I-S-T?

    Black list as in bad, wrong, negative. Black as in black man. So what it really means is white powah!

    Ban this.

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