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    Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    I dislike Sony, I never used to, but started to since they decided to blather on about the PS2 having an "emotion engine" which turned out to be a processor.

    Then there was the fact that they had a great product in the minidisc and managed to destroy it with greed - I still think the minidisc was the true successor to teh floppy disk, and could have been a real competitor to the CD - read and write acccess built in to your pc? Oh yes please. Would have rocked - but it was Sony and they did it too late and too expensive.

    Now there's the PS3, which is a marketing joke - the price was wrong, the timing was late, the pads don't have rumble - oh wait a second, they do! Quick add motion sensing on to the pads. My word what a shambles.

    But now - Sony have got personal. And probably got me in trouble.
    My little brother has a VAIO. Decent spec, nice machine. Runs Vista. Runs like poo.
    I'll format it and put XP on it.
    What? You don't have any files to save - ok I'll just wipe it now.

    *Wiped*

    Rule 1) ALWAYS take adaquate backups.
    I didn't in this case because really, how difficult is it to install XP?

    Answer. Very.

    Xp doesn't recognise the Hdd. At all.
    I think it's a SCSI drive, and I search and search but cannot find the driver.
    I then find out there's Copywrited Sony Files which enable you to install an OS on the machine.

    They're on the recovery CDS (don't have.) And they were on a partition of the drive (just wiped).

    So I jump on the Sony site to download said tools.
    You can't.
    You have to buy a new CD - £30.

    What a complete crock, money isn't the problem here, but there's NO way I'm paying for it. No chance.

    Thanks Sony - you've ruined my January.

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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    I had the same kind of problem with my brothers Dell laptop with the HDD not being recognised when you go to install XP, I believe it was something to do with SATA drivers. You might find that you need to enable something in the BIOS or alternatively use nLite to add some SATA drivers to the install CD.

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    Sorry, might have misunderstood you message. Have you got XP already installed and are installing drivers or are you trying to actually install XP?

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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bazzlad View Post
    but started to since they decided to blather on about the PS2 having an "emotion engine" which turned out to be a processor.
    yes, i know what you mean it was all fluff marketing. but come on... what else could it have possibly been?
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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    So, you decided to put an OS thats some 6 years old, on a PC without first checking there where drivers for everything. Even thou its bleeding edge SAS type HDD most likely?

    You where going to put XP, on that. And expect it to run faster?

    At least tell me it was 64bit?

    On my boxes i've not made the jump to vista on their all either xp 64 or windows 2k3. It runs a fair bit faster, one of the simple reasons is the compiler would of allowed better optimisation for all these new things that came out.

    And now your complaining because you wiped the recovery data, and have to pay £30 for a new CD. Given that they've almost certainly outsourced the development of their tools, and will odds are as such pay a fee per license. Its hardly extortion.

    The first question should of been why is it running dog slow?
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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    Bazz, suggest going into the BIOS and seeing if you can change the HD mode from AHCI to ATA.

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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    Right Theanimus, I'll ignore your post for now but come back to it.

    I can't change anything in the bios because it's some kind of Sony fisher price bios - there's about 3 options in there, and nothing useful.

    Now Animus the question should not be WHY do I want to do this, the question is WHY have Sony decided to not allow me to do this?

    So why do Sony try so hard, and spend so much money, to stop people doing what they want with something they've paid for? I don't understand - they've had their money what is their problem?

    I've tried to reinstall Vista. Vista finds the Hdd, but still won't let me install on it.

    The reasons I want XP on instead of Vista are numerous, but let's put it this way, the decent spec'd laptop has lag whilst playing Football Manager. There is something wrong with that OS, and I take great pleasure in removing it.

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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    have you got the full product name handy? no doubt someone somewhere has done this successfully
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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    I agree with you Bazzz, I had a similar incident with a VIAO a few months back, after a lot of swearing and googling later I did get some drivers for the SATA contoller.

    What also bugs me is the way that the Sony laptops (don't know about desktops) take you through a really irritating setup program with Norton Ghost/AV and loads of other software without anyway of skipping it. Drives me nuts.

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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadduckUK View Post
    have you got the full product name handy? no doubt someone somewhere has done this successfully
    I can get it tonight, but I searched and searched without joy.

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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    Ah i assumed it was a sony desktop!

    They've not gone out their way in any extent to make it hard to install. As been mentioned try disabling AHCI for it, as this will likely allow it to work.

    Do you know what chipset the laptop is using (or better yet the south bridge), there are plenty of new ones that weren't supported out of the box.

    Are you getting any specific messages about how it fails to install. Have you also cleaned out the MBR and such on the HDD, i've heard of the PE refresuing to continue in some cases.

    On the vista point, there are plenty of people who are able to run cutting edge games laglessly on vista. Hell i've just shelled out for a nice watercooled ultra, probably going to be running vista most of its time, if not all of it. The question should be, why is this instance running dog slow. Vista regretably is still at that stage of its life where you have to have some linux principles going on, ie, the OS disk won't fix everything.
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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    They've not gone out their way in any extent to make it hard to install. As been mentioned try disabling AHCI for it, as this will likely allow it to work.
    Of course they have - they've put on an unbelievably limited BIOS which just about lets me set the boot order, and they've developed a hardware set up for which I need their special software on it to install an OS.

    "Do you know what chipset the laptop is using (or better yet the south bridge), there are plenty of new ones that weren't supported out of the box."

    I'll have to do more research, I was considering opening it up, removing the hdd, setting it in another laptop installing windows then putting it back in - results may vary

    Are you getting any specific messages about how it fails to install. Have you also cleaned out the MBR and such on the HDD, i've heard of the PE refresuing to continue in some cases.
    I did a full and complete Segate wipe removing every single piece of information on it.

    I'm absolutely frustrated to the point of infuriation - I shouldn't have wiped it without taking a backup, but come on, why should installing XP, OR reinstalling Vista be so hard?

    The error message I get on XP is that there are no HDDS, the one on Vista is simply that it cannot initiate the process.

    I'll get the model number when I'm home and hopefully someone can help me proceed a little further with it!

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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    i loaded xp on a new sony vaio the other day and getting all the xp drivers was a right pain in the arse but i managed it, when you've posted the model number i'll have a look at all the stuff i got and see if it's any help to you

    oh and to install xp in the first place i had to use nlite and integrate the sata drivers into the xp cd , i used this guide here for that Install Windows XP on SATA without a Floppy (F6) - No Floppy...no Windows on SATA? Wrong! - Softpedia

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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    Quote Originally Posted by da_ging View Post
    i loaded xp on a new sony vaio the other day and getting all the xp drivers was a right pain in the arse but i managed it, when you've posted the model number i'll have a look at all the stuff i got and see if it's any help to you

    oh and to install xp in the first place i had to use nlite and integrate the sata drivers into the xp cd , i used this guide here for that Install Windows XP on SATA without a Floppy (F6) - No Floppy...no Windows on SATA? Wrong! - Softpedia

    Cheers mate,
    I actually manually tried to put the drivers on Nlite, and it didn't work, so obviously I did something wrong. Will have a run through that guide!

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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    I'm at Scotland this weekend mate, but if you've not sorted it by then, drop by and I'm sure we can figure it out after a few coffees
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    And by trying to force me to like small pants, they've alienated me.

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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    Sounds like a date Agent.

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    Re: Sony are trying to ruin my life.

    I said coffee, not beer
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    And by trying to force me to like small pants, they've alienated me.

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