War On Scientology

[Bazzlad]

No, it dosen't work like that.

Yes it does, it's called flame baiting.
His description of Christianity was nothing but insulting.

Option 1) I personally don't believe in christianity, I see no proof and non is offered.

Option 2) You should also know it makes it especially easy when people like yourself are unable to come up with a single cogent argument to support their demented world view.

And again

Option 1) If you believe in it, why not offer me some proof to why it's a more valid religion than Scientology.

Option 2) "Care to explain to me how your irrational belief in a 2000 year old zombie son of a cloud man is any more deserving of respect than their crazy DC-10 interplanetary travel and intergalactic warlord?

Now, as you can see, there is reasonable debate, and insulting posts - he has choosen on both times to take option 2, when option 1 relays the exact same message and would have bought about a serious response from me.

It's like your Welsh post.

You said Wales isn't actually a Country yes?
Did you phrase it like that, or did you say, those stupid sheep loving farmers are joking themselves into thinking their sparse plot of land is a country?

Exactly. A little thing called tact.

I'll give you a hand. Your protestant right? "as for the protestants been only 500 years old, this is because they where trying to root out the coruption that had become rife, actions that had been present in the church for a lot longer. But why does age have any bearing on the validity of truth?".

It's a nice argument, but I don't follow any "strain" of Christianity, I made my own mind up years ago, and have my own faith, my own way. I don't really like organised religion, but that isn't the point.

Generally speaking, people only take 'offense' and go on with attacking with personal insults, when they can't prove a point (either because it can't be proven, or because they aren't sufficently articulate)

Ridiculous comment - I take offense at tact-less spam baiting, as earlier stated, read any of the other religion threads and you'll see me debating, in a respectful way.

[G4Z]

Look mate, I don't see why I should pussy foot around your beliefs and give them respect I don't think they deserve. Just because I insulted an idea that you take very seriously does not make it a personal attack on you, just like if you insulted the idea of 'liberalism' I wouldn't take it as a personal insult and get all 'offended' even though that is a philosophy I believe in.

You call it flame baiting, I call it an objective assessment.

[Salazaar]

Pax brothers!

Don't you see all this fighting is getting us nowhere when we could be abusing the real weirdos - the scientologists!

[Bazzlad]

Look mate, I don't see why I should pussy foot around your beliefs and give them respect I don't think they deserve. Just because I insulted an idea that you take very seriously does not make it a personal attack on you, just like if you insulted the idea of 'liberalism' I wouldn't take it as a personal insult and get all 'offended' even though that is a philosophy I believe in..

Then it shows that you're completely and utterly socially inept, I hold nothing but contempt for people like you.

If you can't debate objectively, and insult anything that you don't agree with, as earlier stated, it shows a child's mentality.

Why not start a post on how christianity is gay?

It's not "pussy footing" it's common courtesy.

[Agent]

Can you two at least agree on that?

[pollaxe]

Yes, time for a group hug!

[Bazzlad]

Ok, maybe I got a little annoyed.

I'm willing to call a truce, and let the thread resume to Scientology bashing.

[TheAnimus]

Then it shows that you're completely and utterly socially inept, I hold nothing but contempt for people like you.

If you can't debate objectively, and insult anything that you don't agree with, as earlier stated, it shows a child's mentality.

Why not start a post on how christianity is gay?

It's not "pussy footing" it's common courtesy.

Whilst they might of been derogetory, where they false? Zombie is an appt description.

People should always be careful of taking offense to words. Queen Anne's description of St Pauls (i think it was?) Awful, Artificial and amusing. Are those words offense?

Yes, time for a group hug!

Caption contest time!

[pauldarkside]

Yes, time for a group hug!

Caption contest time!

He's not Australian is he?

[greenalien]

Just wondered if any of you have read the late Robert Heinlein's novel 'Stranger in a Strange Land' - more info here :
Stranger in a Strange Land - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A lot of what it has to say about religion, and starting your own (as L.Ron Hubbard, another noted Sci-Fi author did with Scientology), makes interesting and entertaining reading.

[G4Z]

I don't want to argue with you Bazlad, its not my intention at all however I do feel I have been objective and I also feel strongly that it is not appropriate to fall back on being 'offended' during a debate .

So truce accepted but my point still stands that Scientology is no different to any other religion.

[Rosaline]

Caption contest time!

"Yey! Pope Milk!"

[format]

ANONYMOUS - Because none of us is as cruel as all of us


I wish them all the luck.

[directhex]

key error:

protests against the church of scientology are NOT an attempt at religious commentary. those protesting encourage and support "splinters" from the central church of scientology which do not charge 6-7 figures for "enlightenment" and have lack the church's record of killing people - for example, "freezone" is scientology without the creepy money-grabbing cult part, and is encouraged as much as any religion

protests against the church of scientology are against a corporation which masquerades as a religion in order to harm others, gain gross profits, avoid taxation (far beyond the benefits granted to other religions), and a general belief that religion should not and cannot have a price tag

no imam or priest will charge you tens of thousands before telling you about their beliefs

say what you want about the validity of religion, but that's nothing to do with the protests - they're protesting the corporation, not the religious beliefs (silly as they may seem to some)

[G4Z]

Hex, is that the position of Anonymous then?

Personally, I disagree with it as I think all religion is harmful on the whole, but then I am not a part of the group and its up to them how they view other religions.

[Bazzlad]

So truce accepted but my point still stands that Scientology is no different to any other religion.

That's all that was needed mate, non of the malice and spark - I can see why you think that, and respect your decision, I just don't agree.


Blind kids traumatised after being informed it wasn't Santa they were hugging.