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    Games CAN'T be made into films?

    I saw this article Hollywood: LA Times Says, Games Don't Work as Movies recently and my instant reaction as long time gamer was obvious, 'what a total pile of arse!'.

    But then I got to thinking about it for a little bit, pretty much all the game that have been translated to film so far have been somewhat lacking in the plot department, not because they are poor games but because for the most part the player's interaction with the game is what drives them. Even in the most sophisticated RPGs the plot is basically incidental to the mechanics of the game.

    And thinking of RPGs... should the producers try, instead of making half-arsed films of shooty action games, to make a film of something with a bit more of a plot? Say Baldur's Gate, Oblivion or Fallout? I'm not actually sure they should do that either. If you've already played your way through 30 hours of fairly intense story why would you then go and pay to sit like a zombie in from of a 2 hour hacked up version? And would the non-gaming audience go for it either? I doubt it.

    So the only alternative would be to take a well written story, set in or inspired by a strong gaming narrative and make a movie of that. Though that's not much different to just making a stand alone movie in its own right, and it would still be a hard sell to the non-gaming public.

    The last option is to make games based on the narrative established in the movies... and we all know how that usually turns out

    So I reckon this Hollywood chap might be right, it pretty much is impossible to make games into movies.
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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    One word answer: Yep!
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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    Hitman wasnt too bad .. wasnt that from a game ?

    The streetfighter lot were bloody awful. Cant think of any others offhand... Not surprising as I do VERY little gaming.
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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    I heard they are planning to make max payne into a movie. Might not be too bad as it has a good storyline.

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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    Game plots allow for more plot then films, try to squeeze it down and you end up with street fighter the movie.

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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinizter View Post
    Hitman wasnt too bad
    It was still quite bad though. Probably one of the best all the same. Good how a few times he walked exactly like Agent 47 does in the game with the camera following in third person perspective.

    Maybe Doom?

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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmage View Post
    Game plots allow for more plot then films, try to squeeze it down and you end up with street fighter the movie.
    I don't disagree with your point but Streetfighter the game had no plot, they had to add one to make that hash of a movie!

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    The problem is that it's always Uwe Boll that does it
    That's very true Also Paul Anderson - AVP, ResE and Mortal Kombat, though I'm prepared to forgive him because of Event Horizon.
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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    final fantasy movies. I thought the one that followed on ff7 was rather good

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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    Quote Originally Posted by mcmiller View Post
    final fantasy movies. I thought the one that followed on ff7 was rather good
    Good point, though the first one was more of a decent anime with the FF name bolted on.
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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    AVP is a great example of games to film gone bad - as is doom....

    I heard a rumor that FEAR was being considered for a movie... :/

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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    Don't know about you lot, but its a no brainer, Call of Duty 4 plays like a film as it is, so it should convert over to a film EASILY mainly because of the rich storyline which is VERY believeable to an extent but I'll leave that with you guys to scrabble over

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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    Erm, the one fatal flaw which you lot, and film producers and directors are missing is this:

    Games are interactive, YOU control what's going on... films are a passive, reactive experience. So unless, as with the Res Evil films (which ain't too bad) or FF series, which already has a rich storyline, you can take the essence of the game and throw in a decent, convincing and engaging storyline, we're always going to be disappointed.

    Doom is a classic example, Streetfighter is another.

    Now take Postal the movie, from the snippets I've seen that looks like being a gross out movie that is going to be as stupidly funny as Team America... but it has sod all to do with the Postal games.
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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    Doom was terrible, the first person perspective was seriously cheesey but very very funny

    I thought that the tomb raider movies wern't bad to be fair.

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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    I heard they are planning to make max payne into a movie. Might not be too bad as it has a good storyline.
    You're kidding right? Besides, Max Payne is just action ripped off The Matrix ripped off John Woo (and got progressively worse) - it's just going to be another double gun wielding, long jacket and sunglasses wearing protagonist focused movie - which to be perfectly honest, have been completely rubbish since the turn of the millenium.

    Only game converted movie I enjoyed, and other non-gamers I know enjoyed too, was Resident Evil - but everyone thought that was a pile of gumpf too.

    Actually, Tomb Raider wasn't bad either, but there's probably a reason for that - the formula is very much appealing to guys, with the odd girl who loves to see a girl kick ass.

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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    Hollywood can't even make most best-selling books into good films, let alone games. So this shouldn't be any surprise. I'd guess about the same proportion of game-to-film format conversions will be good as book-to-film conversions .... i.e. not many.

    Of course, what makes a film "good" is a personal evaluation, and the above assessment is mine. And it wouldn't be the first time I've been to a film that recommended, even by friends, as "great" only to conclude it's a load of hogwash.

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    Re: Games CAN'T be made into films?

    What about making films into games then? what do you guys think of this then? all films made into games are as bad as games made into films in my opinion.

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