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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    I voted for the third option. Personally, I don't think we'd be better off under Tory rule - Liberal is hardly a viable choice and without a drastic reform they're going to remain in 3rd place.

    Has there ever actually been a government that works for everyone? I suspect not. They all promise the earth, fail to deliver and get supplanted after a few terms and the cycle continues; rinse and repeat.

    I'd prefer a solution where the best people and policies were taken from all participants, not a single party, debate with the aim of putting the best/most workable/suitable solutions into practice. Much in the same manner cross-party talks work for debating subjects beyond the scope of a single party. Get the best person/people for the job, and not rely on someone from your own party when there might be someone more capable on another. We don't operate like that with our work so why should it be this way with something far more impacting and important?

    The way it is, it's reminicient of a schoolyard - each gang out to try and beat the other up. Reforms/policies take far too long to be implemented - often requiring multiple terms before they're put into practice. Before a term is up, the governing party is concentrating all efforts to win the next one with back-stabbing and one-upmanship, leaving those reforms/policies unfinished. They're a waste of tax-payers money.

    Party politics is unpalletable at least not in this flavour.
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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    Do you lot remember Maggie???! If you do you'll realise that although Labour have not been perfect they were necessary.

    Similarly we now require a change.

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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by smelly View Post
    Do you lot remember Maggie???! If you do you'll realise that although Labour have not been perfect they were necessary.

    Similarly we now require a change.
    Yes, that's precisely why I said "the cycle continues; rinse and repeat." That was my second time (out of two opportunities) voting against the Thatcher/Major shambles. I don't feel it's anywhere near as bad as it was then but even so, it's still not good.
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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    Personally, I'd be happy if they scrapped political parties and simply had MP's responsible to their constituients, with the Prime Minster chosen by the Queen (or the public if you really insist)

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    This is bunny and friends. He is fed up waiting for everyone to help him out, and decided to help himself instead!

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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucio View Post
    Personally, I'd be happy if they scrapped political parties and simply had MP's responsible to their constituients, with the Prime Minster chosen by the Queen (or the public if you really insist)
    so you want a dictator?

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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lanky123 View Post
    Gordon Brown is an intellectual heavyweight. He got 5 A grades at the equivalent of A levels when he had just turned 15 and went straight to Edinburgh Uni after that. I have trouble believing that anything he does is an innocent mistake. He knows exactly what the consequences of PFI et al are.
    I have trouble believing it too. Hence, why I draw my own personal conclusion about whether he doesn't know what he's doing, or knows precisely what he's doing and does it anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lanky123 View Post
    Is an intelligent liar better than a stupid liar - is Gordon Brown better than Tony Blair/David Cameron?
    Good question. It's a choice rather akin to asking an innocent man to choose his method of execution ..... hanging or electric chair? Like that man, my wish would be to not be starting from where we are, but I don't have that choice.

    The only thing I can suggest is that instead of asking which of those is better, ask which is least bad.

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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucio View Post
    Personally, I'd be happy if they scrapped political parties and simply had MP's responsible to their constituients, with the Prime Minster chosen by the Queen (or the public if you really insist)
    I'm not so sure about the last bit (well, actually I am and don't like it at all), but I agree with the first bit. It's about time our representatives starting finding out what their constituents actually want, and voted for it, rather than voting according to a party whip, their personal "conscience" or what Catholic Bishops want.

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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bazzlad View Post
    I still can't get over the sale of our Gold - that's a mistake we'll pay for big time.

    Goldfinger Brown’s £2 billion blunder in the bullion market - Times Online

    It's unbelievable.

    Add that to signing away our rebate

    Brown faces new row over EU rebate cut | Business | The Guardian

    And you start to wonder if he's as good as sums as he professed to be...
    AS opposed to Thatcher and her cronies nationalising all our industries.

    I was until recently a paying member of the Labour party but i withdrew my subscription when Brown took over. I never voted him in so i will not directly fund any of his activities.

    Saying that, as much as i despise having Brown in charge (too many Scots in the cabinet for my liking amking choices for England???), i wouldnt vote Tory if they gave me Buck House to live in and £1000 a day spending money.

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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    AS opposed to Thatcher and her cronies nationalising all our industries.

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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    lol I think he got it the wrong way round (we all know what he means).
    Do UKIP have a policy of national service? If not just vote tory , labour are bad news.

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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    As has been said apart from extra cash being pumped into the NHS and education I think the current lot have done a terrible job of too many other things to justify staying in power at the next elections

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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    So bad I'm living abroad as my profession is so badly obstructed by legislation in Europe. Say what you like about the US government, but I paid them less than £50 in income tax last year, and I made a passable living!

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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    BBC NEWS | Politics | Speaker's residence bill revealed

    More than £700,000 has been spent on the Commons Speaker's official residence since 2001, figures show.

    A Freedom of Information request by the Daily Telegraph revealed that over £100,000 a year was spent on furniture, art and air-conditioning.

    Speaker Michael Martin's spokeswoman said the improvements were necessary.

    Mr Martin has been criticised after his family used air miles from official flights and his wife claimed cab fares for shopping trips.
    Honestly, they are all in it together - at our expense.
    The system is broke beyond belief.
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    And by trying to force me to like small pants, they've alienated me.

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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    BBC NEWS | Politics | Speaker's residence bill revealed



    Honestly, they are all in it together - at our expense.
    The system is broke beyond belief.
    That is terrible... These people should be punished to set an example!

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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    It is. Champagne Socialists, gotta love em, although I expect that all MPs have spent thousands on their second homes due to the ludicrous expenses system. We need a modern day Guy Fawkes to succeed.
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    Re: Happy with the Current Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    AS opposed to Thatcher and her cronies nationalising all our industries.

    I was until recently a paying member of the Labour party but i withdrew my subscription when Brown took over. I never voted him in so i will not directly fund any of his activities.

    Saying that, as much as i despise having Brown in charge (too many Scots in the cabinet for my liking amking choices for England???), i wouldnt vote Tory if they gave me Buck House to live in and £1000 a day spending money.

    It's this exact closed minded viewpoint that makes me sick.
    Judging a party on what other people in that party did over 20 years ago. Clever.
    It's like a football mentality - mainly breeded by the parents.

    "Son you were born supporting Wolves, so remember we hate the Albion"

    When I was young I'd ask a very wise man who he voted, and he always responded with the same answer:

    "Who ever deserves it at the time"

    Shame not everyone thinks like that.

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